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[mjmaj]

Wow Mjmaj, that sounded rather anti-semitic, don't you think?

Anti-Semitic !

Dear arunma I could understand that you meant the quoted verses.

No there's no anti-Semitic at all.

I hope if re-read those verses again with a little meditation, then I 'm sure you will find the contrast, Those Holy verses aim only to protect Muslims from any probable

Assault by showing them what's happening behind the veils.



At the same time they urge Muslims not to take any aggressive actions but to be patient and to meet this harmful actions with kindness.

Resembling those verses is the following one :​

لَتُبْلَوُنَّ فِي أَمْوَالِكُمْ وَأَنفُسِكُمْ وَلَتَسْمَعُنَّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ وَمِنَ الَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواْ أَذًى كَثِيراً وَإِن تَصْبِرُواْ وَتَتَّقُواْ فَإِنَّ ذَلِكَ مِنْ عَزْمِ الأُمُورِ

Assuredly ye will be tried in your property and in your persons, and ye will hear much wrong from those who were given the Scripture before you, and from the idolaters. But if ye persevere and ward off (evil), then that is of the steadfast heart of things.

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3:186
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This is first point;

Secondly : In Quran you'll find many verses that directed to all mankind

Equally inviting them to submit to the only one true god - to worship Him, and

reminding them of their original race for example:



يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَى وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ



"O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made `you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware."[49:12]​

قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ جَمِيعًا الَّذِي لَهُ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ لا إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ يُحْيِـي وَيُمِيتُ فَآمِنُواْ بِاللّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ النَّبِيِّ الأُمِّيِّ الَّذِي يُؤْمِنُ بِاللّهِ وَكَلِمَاتِهِ وَاتَّبِعُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَهْتَدُونَ

Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all (the messenger of) Him unto whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no God save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His words and follow him that haply ye may be led aright.​

7:158
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يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ قَدْ جَاءتْكُم مَّوْعِظَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَشِفَاء لِّمَا فِي الصُّدُورِ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ

O mankind! There hath come unto you an exhortation from your Lord, a balm for that which is in the breasts, a guidance and a mercy for believers.[ 10:56]



So accusing Islam as anti-Semitic is totally false.



Thirdly : It's known that the Quran is in Arabic language and the prophet of

Islam is Arabic. And the Arab are originally of Semitic decedents,

So how then can any one prescribe Islam or the Quran as Anti-Semitic!!

But if you mean with anti-Semitic "anti-Jewish" it's also untrue,



Because Jewish and Christians have a special importance in the holy Quran

Specially in the second Sura "The Cow" and "The Family of Imran" where you

Find such a kind verses reminding them to Allah's favorites upon them, and blaming

them to their rejecting the truth. Always calling them gently " People of the Scripture"

Here some examples:​

يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اذْكُرُواْ نِعْمَتِيَ الَّتِي أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَوْفُواْ بِعَهْدِي أُوفِ بِعَهْدِكُمْ وَإِيَّايَ فَارْهَبُونِ

O Children of Israel! Remember My favor wherewith I favored you, and fulfil your (part of the) covenant, I shall fulfil My (part of the) covenant and fear Me.



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وَآمِنُواْ بِمَا أَنزَلْتُ مُصَدِّقاً لِّمَا مَعَكُمْ وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ أَوَّلَ كَافِرٍ بِهِ وَلاَ تَشْتَرُواْ بِآيَاتِي ثَمَناً قَلِيلاً وَإِيَّايَ فَاتَّقُونِ

And believe in that which I reveal, confirming that which ye possess already (of the Scripture), and be not first to disbelieve therein, and part not with My revelations for a trifling price, and keep your duty unto Me.

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يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِآيَاتِ اللّهِ وَأَنتُمْ تَشْهَدُونَ



O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve ye in the revelations of Allah, when ye (yourselves) bear witness (to theft truth ) ?



يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَلْبِسُونَ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَاطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُونَ الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ

O People of the Scripture! Why confound ye truth with falsehood and knowingly conceal the troth?



Regards​

 

[mjmaj]

Dear arunma, have you read my comments about your question Anti-Semitic?
Any comments from you or other readers?

 

[farside]

inimitable adj. Defying imitation; matchless.

Many Muslims, if not all, will claim the Quran to be inimitable.

However, “The inimitability of the Quran” is in eye of the beholder as it is for all literary works.

Kind Regards,
Farside

 

[ServantofTheOne]

inimitable adj. Defying imitation; matchless.

Many Muslims, if not all, will claim the Quran to be inimitable.

However, “The inimitability of the Quran” is in eye of the beholder as it is for all literary works.

Kind Regards,
Farside

the uniqueness of the Qur'an is not a subjective matter as you imply.

The literary style of the Qur'an did not exist prior to its arrival, despite the fact that the arabs were known for their poetry and literature. If you know of a literary work pre islam and post islam that matches the Qur'an in its literary style then please give an example.

there is nothing subjective about this topic, nor does it have to do with the substance of its content. The challenge is very clear, if you doubt that it is the word of the All Mighty, then gather all your literary geniuses together and produce something that matches its style. thats all, its content could be anything you like, you could write about whatever subject you want it doesn't have to be about religion.

The challenge is to match the style, not content.

opinions about its content is certainly subjective, while its literary style is certainly not.

let me know when you come up with something.

 

[farside]

On Literary Uniqueness

All literary works are unique which includes the Quran, Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, etc. Even the posts of ServantOfTheOne are unique (unless he/she copied and pasted them.)

On Literary Style

There are many scholarly works whose style formed the literary foundation of various languages.

Example 1: The Canterbury Tales by Chaucer laid the foundation of English literature.

Example 2: The works of Pushkin are considered to be the foundation of Russian literature.

Example 3: The Quran formed the foundation of Arabic literature.


Kind Regards,
Farside

 

[ghazirizvi]

On Literary Uniqueness

All literary works are unique which includes the Quran, Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, etc. Even the posts of ServantOfTheOne are unique (unless he/she copied and pasted them.)

On Literary Style

There are many scholarly works whose style formed the literary foundation of various languages.

Example 1: The Canterbury Tales by Chaucer laid the foundation of English literature.

Example 2: The works of Pushkin are considered to be the foundation of Russian literature.

Example 3: The Quran formed the foundation of Arabic literature.

Quran may have formed the foundation of some Arabic literature, but so far there yet has to be a work so perfect and complete in literary style as the Quran is. As for your opinion that everyones work is unique, well that is true but a rather weak argument in this case. We are talking about the perfectness of the literary style established by the Quran, and the challenge still holds to this day, to produce a work of the like.

 

[farside]

The Literary Style of the Quran

The "perfectness" of the literary style of the Quran reminds me of two famous quotations:

All styles are good except the tiresome kind. – Voltaire

The style is the man. – George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon


Conundrum -- Who is the man?


Kind Regards,
Farside

 

[Bookofknowledge]

The Literary Style of the Quran

The "perfectness" of the literary style of the Quran reminds me of two famous quotations:

All styles are good except the tiresome kind. – Voltaire

The style is the man. – George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon


Conundrum -- Who is the man?


Kind Regards,
Farside

Tell me if you can do me a favor.

Are you strugling to find what you post or is it very easy for you to post such messages?

 

[WhatIsTruth]

What I want to know is the poster's point in the OP? To deconvert Muslims by sharing so called conversion stories? To get people to argue? Or to waist bandwidth?

 

[Muslim]

What I want to know is the poster's point in the OP? To deconvert Muslims by sharing so called conversion stories? To get people to argue? Or to waist bandwidth?

I think by posting stories of people who left Islam they are trying to paint Islam as an incorrect religion. However there are tons of stories of people who left Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Budism, etc. And it would be no point for us all to start posting these stories with that aim in mind.