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You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.

You're scared to do something God might want you to do.

Could you repent at this point?

Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!
 

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Space said:
You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.

You're scared to do something God might want you to do.

Could you repent at this point?

Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!

Anyone can repent at any time, I wouldn't worry about not being forgiven and being damned to eternal life with the devil, I wouldn't however be able to answer your other questions sorry
 
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Space said:
Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!

Have you ever seen a young child with a parent? They trust that parent completly because that's all they know. Having a childlike faith is like us completly trusting in God and Jesus....In the sence of repenting I guess It's trusting that God will hear you and forgive you and not worrying that he might not. If we have a child like faith it's us looking at God knowing that he can look after us when we have no power to help ourselves.

I hope that helps and that it's right
 
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Hi again, Space. Happy New Year! This has been gnawing away at you, hasn't it? Have people accused you of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, or do you fear it from what you feel and have read?

Here is one example among many where God had heard people's comments against Him, and saw their actions, and still asked them to come back.
Zech 1:1
In the eighth month of the second year of Darius, the word of the LORD came to Zechariah the prophet, the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo saying, "The LORD was very angry with your fathers.

Therefore say to them, `Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Return to Me," declares the LORD of hosts, "that I may return to you," says the LORD of hosts.

"Do not be like your fathers, to whom the former prophets proclaimed, saying, `Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Return now from your evil ways and from your evil deeds."'


Notice that even though God was angry with them for what they had chosen to do, He still wanted them to return.

King David sent a neighbor into the front lines so he could sleep with the man's wife. We still call him "a man after God's heart."

King Solomon built altars for his foreign wives' idol worship (plural), and gradually slipped into idol worship himself. He is still considered the master of wisdom, and we attribute to him the collections of Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes.

If you grew up with a fairly decent set of parents, picture how they'd feel if you ran away from home. They would search for you until they found you.

In the same way, you would know that your place was with them, and once you grew weary of finding food and places to sleep, you'd trust that they'd let you come home again. You'd assume they'd still cook meals for you.

This is childlike faith. God puts up with a lot more from us than a sentence or two. He is not willing that any should perish.

Forgive yourself, and move forward. Beg for His forgiveness, and ask Him to show you somehow that He has forgiven you. Don't let accusing voices drag you downward.


 
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Space, sorry to go on and on. I just ran across something that describes what I'm trying to say so well. It shows more on the relationship between God and people.

What does the name "Israel" (ישראל) mean?

This name has been interpreted many different ways including, "wrestles with God", "ruled by God" and "prince of God". In order to find the original meaning of this name let us first break down the word to its root words. The first letter,
"י" (Y), means "he". The letters "שר" (SaR) is a root word that means "turn the head".

A few other roots derived from this "parent" root are; "ASaR" meaning a yoke which turns the head of the ox; "SaYaR" meaning a fishhook which turns the head of a fish; "YaSaR" meaning discipline as you turn the head, or change the direction, of the one you discipline; "SaHaR" meaning to turn around. The next two letters "אל" (AL) means "God".

When these are put together we have "he turns the head of God". While this may sound like a strange meaning, it is not uncommon to find individuals in the Bible who "turn the head" of God or cause him to change his direction. Abraham caused God to relent his destruction of Sodom if there were at least ten righteous in the city. Moses stopped God from destroying Israel after they made the golden calf.

The word "SaR" can also be understood as a "prince", the son of a king. Jacob is like the "prince of God" (a possible translation for Israel). The young prince can look to the king with eyes of desire and the king out of compassion for his son will grant him his desire. This is the relationship Jacob had with God.

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/13_faqs1.html
 
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You can always be forgiven of blaspheme the Holy Spirit until the day you die. Blaspheme of the HS, is denial of His saving grace, and forgiveness and power. If you repent obviously you belive in His forgivness. It will only not be forgiven if you deny His grace, forgivness, mercy and power until you die. Hence why Jesus said, "never forgiven, in this life or the next."
 
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Space said:
You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.

You're scared to do something God might want you to do.

Could you repent at this point?

Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!
True Repentance is a gift of God. The only thing anyone can do in themselves apart from the Holy Spirit giving them that gift of repentance is called a "sorrow of the world" which works death; but Godly sorrow is repentance unto life. (2 Cor. 7:10) That means you must seek the Lord for that gift of true repentance like the Psalmist who prayed, "turn us again, Oh Lord. Turn us again, and we shall be saved" It means, in other words, that you must focus your attention on Christ. Remember that "He has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness through the knowledge of Him..." Or Jesus said the same thing by saying "take my yoke upon you and learn of me...and you will find rest for your soul." As you learn of Him, you will appreciate more and more that Christ is trustworthy and the Holy Spirit will convince you and lead you to true faith in Him and repentance.
 
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First, you have to see what the blaphemy of the Holy Spirit is, some people I think, are confused as to what Jesus attributed this to.

Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw.Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is taking what God is doing, and accounting it to satan. And as Jesus points out, you will never be forgiven that.
I don't know if this is what you did, Space, but if not, whatever you have done can be forgiven, if you repent.
 
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Thanks for all your responces. The thing that's bothering me right now is that I do not feel whole. I feel like there's a place inside I want to go home to but I don't feel like I have the courage to repent. I also feel like I have a hardoned heart that's keeping me from repenting. I guess my faith isn't as high as it should be ... I don't know.
 
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Praying for our CF brother, Space, that he see that his heart is softening or he would not be asking questions here. Praying that he be able to lay down his pride and humble himself at the feet of the God who loves him and who will forgive him and create in him a clean heart and a new spirit! Thank you, Father, in the name of Jesus, Yeshua Lord! :bow:
 
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Space said:
I don't feel like I'm Christian. I feel like I'm having a very hard time repenting (like I'm in a daze). I think I might have said God was bad, without knowing what I was doing.
All people have to fight the urges of our fallen sinful flesh, and we have to keep trying. Hang in there and believe God's word above any of your "feelings". He says that if we call on His name and ask for forgiveness, then it is ours.

1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Paul fought hiis sinful nature too. See here his confession in scripture about how sin dwells in our flesh. Don't give up or give in to the lies of the devil that always condemn us. The devil is the accuser of the brethren, and God has said to us that there is no condemnation to those who belong to Jesus. Give yourself to Him if you have not already. He will in no way cast you out if you come to Him asking for help.

Joh 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

Romans 7:15 I don’t understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do the very thing I hate.
16 I know perfectly well that what I am doing is wrong, and my bad conscience shows that I agree that the law is good.
17 But I can’t help myself, because it is sin inside me that makes me do these evil things.
18 I know I am rotten through and through so far as my old sinful nature is concerned. No matter which way I turn, I can’t make myself do right. I want to, but I can’t.
19 When I want to do good, I don’t. And when I try not to do wrong, I do it anyway.
20 But if I am doing what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing it; the sin within me is doing it.
21 It seems to be a fact of life that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong.
22 I love God’s law with all my heart.
23 But there is another law at work within me that is at war with my mind. This law wins the fight and makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me.
24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin?
25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin.
1 ¶ So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.
2 For the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you through Christ Jesus from the power of sin that leads to death.

The battle between the flesh and the new spirit God gives us to lead us into truth and holiness is ongoing. We overcome sin in our lives by the blood of the lamb and the testimony that we fight the good fight of faith and do not give up our lives to sin.

Galatians 5:16 So I advise you to live according to your new life in the Holy Spirit. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves.
17 The old sinful nature loves to do evil, which is just opposite from what the Holy Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite from what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, and your choices are never free from this conflict.

1Ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

Re 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 
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Space said:
You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.


Knowing that you first have to have be baptized with the Spirit and performing miracles through the spirit ("tasting of the power to come"), I seriously doubt that you blasphemed the Holy Spirit.


You're scared to do something God might want you to do.


First, you had better be darned sure that what you think He may be wanting you to do IS in fact what He wants you to do...otherwise you are guessing and that can lead to real trouble.


Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this? Thanks!


Repenting has very little to do with faith. Repenting is telling God that you truly are sorry for all the sin you have committed in your life and that you are turning away from committing that sin, that you don't want to live a life of disobedience to God anymore. That is repentence, it has to do with your lifestyle and your actions. John said, "Bring forth works meet for repentence." Meaning that you cannot repent with your mouth only, if you say that you are repenting from sinful actions, then you need to stop committing those sinful actions and begin to live the life God wants you to live....a life marked by loving others (doing good things to and for other people).

Blessings!
 
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Space said:
Thanks for all your responces. The thing that's bothering me right now is that I do not feel whole. I feel like there's a place inside I want to go home to but I don't feel like I have the courage to repent. I also feel like I have a hardoned heart that's keeping me from repenting. I guess my faith isn't as high as it should be ... I don't know.



Repenting is not easy, and you will not be able to repent until you first give your life to God in getting saved.

AFter you get saved, you need to begin to renew your mind with the Word of God so that you can be made a new creature in Christ...this does NOT happen when you first get saved as many erroneously believe. You must fill your mind with scripture and meditate upon it, think upon it, even to the point that you talk about it to yourself.

AFter a while you will build a spiritual consciousness about things, a filter that helps you to keep out and put down evil thoughts, and help you keep your mind focussed upon God and Godly things...this is walking in the spirit. you will find it near impossible to repent and stay on the narrow path in obedience if you are not walking in the spirit.

It is not as hard as it may sound, it just takes time. But unless we renew our minds and begin walking in the spirit, we will remain stuck in Romans 7.15 and up, until we begin walking in the spirit where we begin being "in Christ" where all condemnation ends...another misconception many have, that we are "in Christ" the moment we get saved. Scripture does not support such an idea, we are "in Christ" when we are walking in the spirit.

Blessings!
 
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Space said:
You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.

You're scared to do something God might want you to do.

Could you repent at this point?

Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!

I accepted Jesus as my Saviour when I was a nine year old little girl, and I've never regretted it. Faith is not something we really have....it is through God that we have the faith to believe in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8 & 9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

My prayer is that you will accept Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour. :prayer:
 
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Space said:
I don't feel like I'm Christian. I feel like I'm having a very hard time repenting (like I'm in a daze). I think I might have said God was bad, without knowing what I was doing.

Saying God, Jesus or even the Holy Spirit is bad or calling them a name is not the blaspheme of the Holy Spirit that Jesus said was unforgiven. It is blasphemic in itself, but can be forgiven. Read my above post on what blaspheme of the Holy Spirit is. Unwilling to repent (as you said you have a hard time doing) is more along the lines of what Jesus meant. But none the less, you still can repent and all would be well. Like I said earlier, you would have to die with this hardness of heart, unbelieveing in His mercy for it to be the unforgiven blaspheme Jesus spoke of. Because like I said, if you repent and ask forgiveness and accept knowing He did forgive you, than this sin can't be committed.

Satan tries to trick people into thinking that what Jesus meant was that the blaspheme is speaking bad of the Holy Spirit or calling Him names. He does this so people think they have committed this sin, and totally forget about God at all thinking they are doomed. I went through this once when I was younger, and was adviced otherwise. Just keeping seeking Jesus and repent and get Baptized, and you don't have to worry about it.
 
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Space said:
You blasphemied the Holy Spirit on a piece of paper, but flushed it down the toilet, because you didn't want anyone to see it.

You're scared to do something God might want you to do.

Could you repent at this point?

Also, I heard repenting is like a childlike faith (like you're going to jump off the edge and have faith that your dad will catch you). Can someone explain more about this?

Thanks!

Repenting is having a change of heart, deciding that your way isn't working, turning from your sin and doing it God's way.

What is faith? Faith is not merely intellectual knowledge (belief). Indeed, the words believe and faith are used to refer to the same thing. But true biblical faith is not believing in Christ as we believe in Abraham Lincoln. Both Christ and Lincoln are historical figures. But biblical faith is not knowledge about Christ.

True biblical faith is not sentiment either. Many people equate faith with feelings. Feelings are not faith. Because of our background in church, or some religious experiences which we have had, we may equate faith with the nostalgic and fond memories we attach to these things. But faith is deeper than that.

A basic element of faith is trust. Faith begins with knowledge. There is a certain understanding about Christ we must have. We must know that He died on the Cross for our sins, that He paid the penalty there to purchase our salvation. But then we must trust in Him as the only hope we have for salvation. Faith begins with knowledge but culminates in commitment. We must trust Christ with our lives.

There’s a famous story told about the nineteenth-century French daredevil who went by the name of Charles Blondin. Blondin’s most famous trick was crossing Niagara Falls on a tightrope. He did this not just once, but repeatedly, with many variations—carrying different objects, or pushing a wheelbarrow.

The story goes that one day a crowd watched Blondin cross the tightrope pushing a wheelbarrow. When they roared their applause and approval, the tightrope walker roared back at the crowd, “Do you believe I can do it again?”

“YES!” shouted the crowd.

“Do you believe I could walk this tightrope with a man sitting in the wheelbarrow?” Blondin challenged, and again the crowed roared in agreement.

“Then who will volunteer to come ride in the wheelbarrow?” Blondin shouted back.

The silence was deafening. No one wanted to step forward to be the one who sat in the wheelbarrow. They were all willing to believe he could do it, but to take belief one step farther—to trust Blondin enough to be the one to sit in the wheelbarrow, balanced on that taut rope far above all those gushing torrents of water—no, nobody in the crowd that day had that kind of trust.

True faith in Jesus means that we stake our lives on Him. We commit ourselves to Him as our only hope for salvation. We give ourselves totally to Him, and burn our bridges behind us. Without trust, there is no faith. Without faith, there is no reception of grace. Without grace, there is no salvation.

You can believe, all day long, in Jesus and that He can save you but until you climb in the wheelbarrow, place all of your trust in Him, you do not have a saving faith.
 
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