Morality without Absolute Morality

[Hans Blaster]

I understand the absurdity, but the absurdity is in the idea of an infinite regress to begin with because everything drains away to nothing in an infinite regress

There are some speculations about how the current epoch is initiated. Some like eternal inflation were random bits will stop inflating and form a new "universe" with that start as a big-bang-like event. Others have cyclical sequences of bangs or bangs and crunches. There are other models, but I don't care which one is true if any. An infinite past is not a problem.

Nope, at least not when "subjectivity" and "objectivity" are properly understood.

Incorrect. Dependence on a person certainly is subjective when "subjective" and "objective" are properly understood. It is the literal discrimination between the two. Dependent on a person = subjective.

Uh huh, that's just your belief.

Is there not an eternity in your worldview? Is not your "source" eternal? An infinite past not to mention an infinite future of punishment?

 

[Bradskii]

An infinite past is not a problem.

Especially if time didn't start until the BB. But I vote cyclical.

 

[Fervent]

There are some speculations about how the current epoch is initiated. Some like eternal inflation were random bits will stop inflating and form a new "universe" with that start as a big-bang-like event. Others have cyclical sequences of bangs or bangs and crunches. There are other models, but I don't care which one is true if any. An infinite past is not a problem.

Speculative models are speculative models, not any sort of evidence. But infinite regress is an absurdity, for multiple reasons that basically boil down to the fact that everything drains away to nothing and that there is no way to get to the present moment.

Incorrect. Dependence on a person certainly is subjective when "subjective" and "objective" are properly understood. It is the literal discrimination between the two. Dependent on a person = subjective.

Not quite, because grammatical objects don't really apply to God. God is more like a verb than a noun, not subject to such predication.

Is there not an eternity in your worldview? Is not your "source" eternal? An infinite past not to mention an infinite future of punishment?

Eternal is terminal, it is the beginning and the end. Not an infinite regress, but a single, ultimate cause.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Especially if time didn't start until the BB. But I vote cyclical.

Might as well just vote. I doubt it can be worked out evidentially. Personally I'm voting that it appeared spontaneously next Tuesday and we only remember because of spontaneously implanted memories.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Might as well just vote. I doubt it can be worked out evidentially. Personally I'm voting that it appeared spontaneously next Tuesday and we only remember because of spontaneously implanted memories.

Next Thursday?! I see we are working with closed time curves here I think it will be found to be caused by the "oorsakad" phenomenon. We won't know how it works, but it will explain everything. No I won't try to justify it, but please know that I'm right.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

I understand the absurdity, but the absurdity is in the idea of an infinite regress to begin with because everything drains away to nothing in an infinite regress

Why do you believe that infinite regress to be vicious? Not all infinite regresses are vicious, some are benign.

If you don't believe it to be vicious, what do you mean with drain away to nothing?