Moon was Created

[dad]

When it's dad. Yeah, I'm here for the show.

I've gone through my trial by fire with dad. Now I get to enjoy others torture themselves

Must have been a while ago, I don't remember you. Besides, as time goes on, I adapt my position to all the new evidences, and facts that arise. What you may have called torture before might be more of a sudden death now.

 

[AirPo]

No, for imput, although the sparring partners just can't seem to put up much of a fight these days.

Then try actually sparring as opposed to ing.

 

[FishFace]

So, you believing in a same past is no indication of truth.

Of course.

Now, if you had the miracles, and dead raised up, and virgin birth, and etc etc etc that the bible has in spades, you might have a little more than what you are talking about. Fact.

Hey, I was born by virgin birth. I also not only cure people, but give them 20/20 vision, allow them to run marathons, and jump 20 storeys, all by touch.

Do I have any evidence? Just as much evidence as you do of your virgin birth.

Ge 10:25 - And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

Nothing to do with spirits under the earth, thought not.

Well if all you look for is a reason to believe, rather than present a science case that is solid, there are only so many places one can look.

Well go on then!

Jesus visited them.

Has he really. Don't believe you.
Give me a reason to believe you.

 

[Parmenio]

Must have been a while ago, I don't remember you. Besides, as time goes on, I adapt my position to all the new evidences, and facts that arise. What you may have called torture before might be more of a sudden death now.

I'm not really surprised that you don't remember me. I only went at it with you in one thread and that was enough to teach me.

Your crazy is on display enough for everyone. I don't think I need to help bring it out.

 

[dad]

Then try actually sparring as opposed to ing.

OK. Step into the ring.

 

[dad]

Putting up a good fight happened before page 50...After that its just like taking a few paces backwards and running headlong into a wall. I am definitely here for the entertainment.

Thanks for that, you do provide some. Keep up the good work.

 

[dad]

Of course.

One good thing about you, you seem fairly honest.

Hey, I was born by virgin birth. I also not only cure people, but give them 20/20 vision, allow them to run marathons, and jump 20 storeys, all by touch.

Whoops, cancel that last thought. (No, I never saw this part, before posting the last part)

Do I have any evidence? Just as much evidence as you do of your virgin birth.

Really? So your word is equal to God's, and all witnesses to Jesus' life are filthy liars. Wonder where you get that idea? Oh, right, the good old mirror. OK.

Nothing to do with spirits under the earth, thought not.

So, where would spirits be OK? In your ear?? Nowhere? In a haunted house?

Has he really. Don't believe you.
Give me a reason to believe you.

Well, if you want a reason to believe, you will find it. If you flee from reasons to believe, you will be allowed to do so. The choice is not up to me. I made my choice.

 

[dad]

I'm not really surprised that you don't remember me. I only went at it with you in one thread and that was enough to teach me.

Your crazy is on display enough for everyone. I don't think I need to help bring it out.

OK, maybe toss the pizza around in the air, or something, entertainment is allowed as well here.

 

[FishFace]

Really? So your word is equal to God's

Well, my word is as good as the word you claim is God's, until you give us a good reason to believe it actually is God's.

So, where would spirits be OK? In your ear?? Nowhere? In a haunted house?

Anywhere I have a reason to believe they reside. So yes, at the moment, nowhere.

Well, if you want a reason to believe, you will find it. If you flee from reasons to believe, you will be allowed to do so.

Do you have one or don't want? It's not a case of what I want, it's a case of what can reasonably be justified. I want to believe what there is reason to believe.
You supply the reason, I'll supply the belief. At the moment though, you're putting on a poor show.

 

[Nitron]

Do you still believe in the split/merge?

 

[AirPo]

OK. Step into the ring.

More ing?

 

[dad]

Do you still believe in the split/merge?

It is the best idea I have yet come across, that leaves God and spirits in the picture, and agrees with the present evidence.

Frankly, I am wondering a bit about the millennium. I think man (that were not believers, and got raptured, and have new immortal bodies) will again have the long lifespans there. Yet, the new heavens do not arrive till after the millennium ends. Apparently the presence of God here affects things, so that the earth will be similar to the pre flood. I haven't really thought a great deal about it, but it is interesting.

 

[dad]

Well, my word is as good as the word you claim is God's, until you give us a good reason to believe it actually is God's.

Well, can we vote on that??

Anywhere I have a reason to believe they reside. So yes, at the moment, nowhere.

So, in the moon would not matter, or in the earth, you just deny all spirits. Maybe one day you will have a reason to realize they are real. Meanwhile, I guess you can't really comment intelligently about them, since you do not know at all, as you admit.

Do you have one or don't want? It's not a case of what I want, it's a case of what can reasonably be justified. I want to believe what there is reason to believe.
You supply the reason, I'll supply the belief. At the moment though, you're putting on a poor show.

I never really set out to prove the obvious, and generally accepted, and well known. You simply cannot dismiss the spiritual, save in your own head.

 

[Nitron]

10+ Troll Points for dad's bastardization of Lennon.

 

[FishFace]

Well, can we vote on that??

Truth is not a democracy.

So, in the moon would not matter, or in the earth, you just deny all spirits.

Put it this way: I see no reason to believe in these spirits you're talking about, over and above any reason there is to believe in the Underpants Gnomes.

Maybe one day you will have a reason to realize they are real. Meanwhile, I guess you can't really comment intelligently about them, since you do not know at all, as you admit.

I can common as intelligently as I can about the Underpants Gnomes - and in both cases, the intelligent comment is that they don't exist.

I never really set out to prove the obvious, and generally accepted, and well known. You simply cannot dismiss the spiritual, save in your own head.

Yoohooooo, I have already said that A) the truth is not dependent on how many people believe it and B) that no-one believes you anyway.
Stop deluding yourself that anyone agrees with you, and stop deluding yourself that it would actually matter if they did.

 

[Inan3]

I like this time of year, we always get nuts at Christmas.

Well you should feel right at home then.

 

[Inan3]

It is the best idea I have yet come across, that leaves God and spirits in the picture, and agrees with the present evidence.

Frankly, I am wondering a bit about the millennium. I think man (that were not believers, and got raptured, and have new immortal bodies) will again have the long lifespans there. Yet, the new heavens do not arrive till after the millennium ends. Apparently the presence of God here affects things, so that the earth will be similar to the pre flood. I haven't really thought a great deal about it, but it is interesting.

Those who are not believers will NOT get raptured. They will not get immortal bodies. There will be those who go into the millenial reign who have mortal bodies, though. These are those who survive the tribulation. The devil will be bound for those thousand years. Sickness, death, destruction which come from him will be at a minimum and that which does occur will only need to look to Jesus Who will be ruling at the time. People will live longer because of His healing balm. How that happens is not exactly told but just as He healed people while He was on the earth. Healing will occur during the Millenial Reign.

 

[dad]

10+ Troll Points for dad's bastardization of Lennon.

Thanks, not many sequels are better than the original.

 

[dad]

More ing?

OK, here is your marching orders, Air.

Keep posting silly little fluffy airy posts about sweet nothing, so you make the 'views' count go up. That way, some might think something interesting is going on here, and read a bit, and learn something.

Keep up the good work, we all have a place.

 

[dad]

Those who are not believers will NOT get raptured. They will not get immortal bodies.

Of course not, but they will still be alive somewhere.

There will be those who go into the millenial reign who have mortal bodies, though. These are those who survive the tribulation.

True, I didn't get too into it, because so many posters seem to be allergic to the bible here, I keep it to a dull roar.

The devil will be bound for those thousand years. Sickness, death, destruction which come from him will be at a minimum and that which does occur will only need to look to Jesus Who will be ruling at the time. People will live longer because of His healing balm. How that happens is not exactly told but just as He healed people while He was on the earth. Healing will occur during the Millenial Reign.

Nice try. You have some good points, but forget a few things. If a man dies at 1000 years old, he will be considered a child then, so we have the thousand year lifespans back, it seems. In other words, they might live on all the way through to the end of the 1000 years. But not just lifespans are different, the growth rates in the millennium are also fast again! (if you need a verse on that, let me know) Now, I don't think it is in the bible, but I have also heard some say they had reasons to believe that the climate will be a lot better then to. I am pretty sure that the lion will lay with the lamb then as well. (unless that is all in New Jerusalem?) so, that means that the fast evolving is back again, I would surmise!! Now, I'd have to look it up, but I seem to recall something about childbirth being easy again then as well?

So, there is more than just healings going on, that's for sure then!!