Moon was Created

[dad]

It is valid, because spirits are not physical.


What did I tell you?

How clever is that? Calling the spiritual the hi theory?? I suppose it is harmless fun. 'Hi ghost! Hi angels! Hi watchers! Hi departed spirits!'
Whatever works for you.

 

[AirPo]

HI whatever you make up

 

[dad]

HI whatever you make up

Thanks for stopping in with that. Let us chew on it a bit.

 

[dad]

It depends. In some places it is very close to ground level. Oil companies actually tap into hell and use the black Hell Blood for profit. The side-effects are usually WAR! pollution, and EVIL Presidents!

I see. Well, cheer up, that is a temporary situation. Spirits do come up to the surface, though, from all I hear. Some of them come to gather men together for war, yes. Others possess leaders. And some also seek to destroy the earth. You are warm here, even getting hot.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I see. Well, cheer up, that is a temporary situation. Spirits do come up to the surface, though, from all I hear. Some of them come to gather men together for war, yes. Others possess leaders. And some also seek to destroy the earth. You are warm here, even getting hot.

You hear some pretty wacky stuff -- might want to lay off the pipe.

 

[shevar]

I see. Well, cheer up, that is a temporary situation. Spirits do come up to the surface, though, from all I hear. Some of them come to gather men together for war, yes. Others possess leaders. And some also seek to destroy the earth. You are warm here, even getting hot.

It seems I missed a few verses of the Bible?

Can you please present any quotes from the Bible that states that there are spirits inside the moon and that they sometimes turn people into murderous [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]s?

From what I know about Christianity that sounds pretty, errr, blasphemous.

 

[FishFace]

It is valid, because spirits are not physical.

Yoohoo! You still need a reason for believing there are spirits inside the earth!

The only way we will agree is if you get saved. Even then, it might take a good long while.

Been there, done that, didn't like the epistemological abhorrency.

Doesn't sound like a sound proposition to me. If you give me documented evidence that most cultures claim there is a creature we can't see on my desk, I'll take another look at your claim.

OK. Well, if you give me documented evidence that most cultures claim there are spirits living inside the earth, then I'll take another look at your claim.

You simply seem to think you can make an invention of your imagination, equal to worldwide historical documented real claims. No. All things are not equal. Learn the difference.

Sure. Unfortunately, the inventions of your imagination are subject to the same constraints.

So. Give us a reason to believe that there are spirits under the earth and we can talk.

Good, then stop assuming otherwise.

Why? You assume that there is no invisible hamster on your desk - why do you do that? Because there's no reason TO believe that there's a hamster there.

 

[tanzanos]

You hear some pretty wacky stuff -- might want to lay off the pipe.

Man it's got to be illegal!!! Stuff that strong can wreak havoc on a human brain!

 

[AirPo]

Man it's got to be illegal!!! Stuff that strong can wreak havoc on a human brain!

But it gets the creative juices flowing.

 

[dad]

It seems I missed a few verses of the Bible?

Can you please present any quotes from the Bible that states that there are spirits inside the moon and that they sometimes turn people into murderous [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]s?

From what I know about Christianity that sounds pretty, errr, blasphemous.

There are spirits, that Jesus visited, in prison, in the heart of the earth. And evidence of worldwide accounts of some sort of underworld were posted here. So, we know that spirits exist, and that they also exist under the earth.

People possessed of spirits is well documented in the bible. Take an example of the spirits that went into a herd of swine. Another example of bad spirits, is this

Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Read it and weep.

 

[dad]

Yoohoo! You still need a reason for believing there are spirits inside the earth!

Bible, and history, does that count? A lack of any science on the topic at all, does that help?? I doubt more evidence could exist for anything.

Been there, done that, didn't like the epistemological abhorrency.

No? What is that, a skin rash?

OK. Well, if you give me documented evidence that most cultures claim there are spirits living inside the earth, then I'll take another look at your claim.

Look back in the thread, I listed a site that complied the accounts of different cultures. It's a done deal.

Why? You assume that there is no invisible hamster on your desk - why do you do that? Because there's no reason TO believe that there's a hamster there.

I have no reason to agonize over invisible creatures, that have no witnesses, and do nothing, and matter not at all. Perhaps in some areas of some cities, among some 'lifestyles' you might find an interest in invisible gerbils or hamsters.
I prefer to stick to real observations witnessed by trustworthy men, that had observable results, and have been tested in a million ways a billion times. I can only pity those that worry about little animal spooks.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Bible, and history, does that count?

History says there are spirits inside earth? I guess I missed the bit of history in the various history classes I took.

A lack of any science on the topic at all, does that help?? I doubt more evidence could exist for anything.

Since there is no evidence for spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Look back in the thread, I listed a site that complied the accounts of different cultures. It's a done deal.

I can compile a list of cultures that think that have legends of people transforming into animals. Stay off the moors when the moon is full.

I have no reason to agonize over invisible creatures, that have no witnesses, and do nothing, and matter not at all.

An exact description of the invisibile spirits you claim live inside the earth and the moon.

I prefer to stick to real observations

 

[dad]

History says there are spirits inside earth? I guess I missed the bit of history in the various history classes I took.

If you never heard of an underworld, I guess so. If you never heard of Jesus preaching to spirits under the earth, I guess so. That is one reason I hate public education so, (whether or not that is what you attended) -it is always omitting the spiritual, and God.

Since there is no evidence for spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being no spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

I can compile a list of cultures that think that have legends of people transforming into animals.

There is a reason for that. Spirits can appear as animals. The bible also speaks of such creatures. Even the Sphinx is made like that. You can't kick against the pricks.

Stay off the moors when the moon is full.
An exact description of the invisibile spirits you claim live inside the earth and the moon.

I am not sure of who all lives there. I could give my humble opinion. I think New Jerusalem is in the moon. The moon is not big enough to quite hold it if it was the size it will be at the end of the millennium. Something like 5- 10% too small at center. Being made of living stones, I could easily see how the city could grow in 1000 years. Who knows?? If that was the case, why, every man and woman that ever lived that was saved would be there. Maybe your mother? Elvis, King David, Abraham, Moses, etc etc.

Now, if we want to talk earth, why, I seem to recall something about some pre flood folk being down there. I could be wrong, but, hey, they do have to be SOMEWHERE!!!!
Have a good howl at the moon. We are watching you.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

If you never heard of an underworld, I guess so.

Of course I have heard of the underworld but not in history class. Why am I not surprised the you have history and mythology confused.

If you never heard of Jesus preaching to spirits under the earth, I guess so. That is one reason I hate public education so, (whether or not that is what you attended) -it is always omitting the spiritual, and God.

Of course education omits the spiritual unless you take a class on comparative religion or mythology.

FB:Since there is no evidence for spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being no spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

What?? This is just babble. This is what happens when try flip other peoples statment with no thought about what you actually end up saying.

FB:I can compile a list of cultures that think that have legends of people transforming into animals.

There is a reason for that. Spirits can appear as animals.

Like that invisible hamster on your desk?

The bible also speaks of such creatures. Even the Sphinx is made like that. You can't kick against the pricks.

Huh? Why don't you try making sense for a change? Or is that impossible for you?


FB:An exact description of the invisibile spirits you claim live inside the earth and the moon

I am not sure of who all lives there. I could give my humble opinion. I think New Jerusalem is in the moon. The moon is not big enough to quite hold it if it was the size it will be at the end of the millennium. Something like 5- 10% too small at center. Being made of living stones, I could easily see how the city could grow in 1000 years. Who knows?? If that was the case, why, every man and woman that ever lived that was saved would be there. Maybe your mother? Elvis, King David, Abraham, Moses, etc etc.

So Elvis lives inside the moon.

Now, if we want to talk earth, why, I seem to recall something about some pre flood folk being down there. I could be wrong, but, hey, they do have to be SOMEWHERE!!!!
Have a good howl at the moon. We are watching you.

At least you are still good for laughs. I am glad you are back to maintain your vital role as board comedian.

 

[dad]

Of course I have heard of the underworld but not in history class. Why am I not surprised the you have history and mythology confused.

History includes the accounts of men of old. It is not just the winner doctored version of who beat who in war.

Of course education omits the spiritual unless you take a class on comparative religion or mythology.

Education cannot omit the spiritual, that is why it has so many on drugs, and killing themselves, and in moral decay. Education of the moment may be like the Sadducee's of old, yes, in denying things spiritual, like the resurrection. But it is only empty blab, based on nothing at all but demonic inspiration, they don't even realize is there.

What?? This is just babble. This is what happens when try flip other peoples statment with no thought about what you actually end up saying.

No, try and catch the drift here. You can't prove it one way or the other.

Like that invisible hamster on your desk?

No worries, I just squashed it with a book.

Huh? Why don't you try making sense for a change? Or is that impossible for you?

God told Saul at his conversion that it was hard for him to kick against the pricks. If you try to fight the history of man, and all the instances of spiritual things, like spirits that appeared as part animal, you are swimming against the current.

So Elvis lives inside the moon.

I would think so, but, hey we all have an opinion. Where do you think he lives??? Oh, let me guess, you think no one lives after death. OK. Like you really have a lot of proof for that one.

At least you are still good for laughs. I am glad you are back to maintain your vital role as board comedian.

When you start to realize what is actually humorous, I get the last laugh.

 

[Nathan Poe]

History includes the accounts of men of old. It is not just the winner doctored version of who beat who in war.

Would that include The Odyssey? How about The Aeneid? Then there's Dante's Inferno -- are these the "historical" documents you're referring to?

 

[Wyzaard]

Since there is no evidence for there being no spirits inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being no Unicorns inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being no Manticores inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being no Gricks inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Etc...

 

[dad]

Would that include The Odyssey? How about The Aeneid? Then there's Dante's Inferno -- are these the "historical" documents you're referring to?

Do you think they are meant to be historical? On the other hand, accounts, such as the moon god of Egypt building the pyramid is presented as history.

 

[dad]

Since there is no evidence for there being no Unicorns inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence against the bible claims about inside the earth, anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being a same state past, anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

Since there is no evidence for there being Unicorns inside the earth anything with any evidence at all has more evidence.

But, all this stuff aside, what we need to do is look at what evidence we DO have. We have bible, and history. A few bent waves bouncing of God knows what thousands of miles beneath our feet are not evidence of anything, but that something bent some waves.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Do you think they are meant to be historical? On the other hand, accounts, such as the moon god of Egypt building the pyramid is presented as history.

They were all presented as History -- as was The Scarlet Letter, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, and The Catcher in the Rye. Therefore, by your own what-we-shall-ironically-refer-to-as-"logic," you must believe they are all true.

Are you not familiar with the term "Verisimilitude"?