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Eph 4:13 "one faith" is not referring to saving faith but the total of all that is reviled in Scripture concerning the Body of Christ. Our faith in not Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any ism, it is Christianity according to the Holy Bible this is the one faith. You know this so I consider this a side track as you most likely are board and just looking for some entertainment.
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Agreed. It is what they all believed. It is the trusting in what God has said. It would make no sense if your secondary faith was true.
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1 Thes 1:3 We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers, as is right, because your faith is growing abundantly, and the love of every one of you for one another is increasing.
4 Therefore we ourselves boast about you in the churches of God for your steadfastness and faith in all your persecutions and in the afflictions that you are enduring.
Nothing about gifts or a second kind of faith.
4 Therefore we ourselves boast about you in the churches of God for your steadfastness and faith in all your persecutions and in the afflictions that you are enduring.
Nothing about gifts or a second kind of faith.
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Molinism affirms both sovereignty and permission.
Page 149 "Salvation and Sovereignty A Mollinist Approach"
"Molinism simultaneously affirms meticulous, divine sovereignty and genuine human freedom. How does it do this? In short, Molinism argues that God is able to exercise His sovereignty primarily by HIs omniscience. In this way God controls all things but is not re determinative cause of all things."
Page 149 "Salvation and Sovereignty A Mollinist Approach"
"Molinism simultaneously affirms meticulous, divine sovereignty and genuine human freedom. How does it do this? In short, Molinism argues that God is able to exercise His sovereignty primarily by HIs omniscience. In this way God controls all things but is not re determinative cause of all things."
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The Bible. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing else. Except Keathley. And Geisler. And Hunt.
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And it's Kindle for iPhone. That page would take me to the fourth paragraph.
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Well, I went through to the end of the chapter and didn't find the Scriptural support for that statement. In fact, he keeps claiming that Molinism has all of this scriptural support, but rarely produces any.
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Dr. Keathley did affirm on notion of Molinism that the OP decried...mainly that there are possibly some in one world who would be saved who, because a greater number would be saved in this world, will not be saved. Which reinforces my claim that Minism is just a numbers game to God.
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Do you have a specific "things" you wish to discuss concerning Molinism, this diversion I dare say meets that criteria.
A word study we all need to work at
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2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.
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You can use Kindle on your home computer, lap top, AnDroid, Droid X, I Phone, I Pad and of course on the Kindle. Don't know if it can be used on other readers someone else will have to answer that, perhaps Kim Komando can. Anyway they are good avenues to read about MOLINISM or one could just buy the book. They have Keathley's book at Life Way stores.
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Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur
So far no one has distinguished two different faiths exegetically in the believer. There's faith, through which God works to save people. Through this same faith people also receive other graces, some not even saving, because "not everything is soteriology". Many items are exercised in proportion to faith. But faith is what it is.
As God grants people to have faith (Pp 1:29), through the work of the Spirit in the heart (Rom 2:29, 10:10), faith results from God's action in New Birth.
The indwelling of the Spirit is not itself described as New Birth; in fact it appears to follow after faith, while the Spirit is active in a person in order to bring about heart change, in order to bring about faith.
As God grants people to have faith (Pp 1:29), through the work of the Spirit in the heart (Rom 2:29, 10:10), faith results from God's action in New Birth.
The indwelling of the Spirit is not itself described as New Birth; in fact it appears to follow after faith, while the Spirit is active in a person in order to bring about heart change, in order to bring about faith.
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