Modern English version question

preacherinblack · Jan 23, 2015

What do people think of the Modern English version (MEV) ? Also is it a primarily Charismatic/Pentecostal version ? I'm thinking of getting it but I don't know.

turtlejoy · May 25, 2016

I love it, right now my favorite modern translation. It's the only translation I've found that truly backs the claim that they retained the majestic vernacular of the King James Bible. I also prefer the line of manuscripts that MEV and KJV translates from.

Goodbook · May 26, 2016

Never heard of it sorry. I didnt know pentecostals/charismatics had their own version of the bible, as far as I know they use the same ones baptists use.

Bibles arent divided into denoms with the exception of catholic bibles.

faroukfarouk · May 26, 2016

Goodbook said:
Never heard of it sorry. I didnt know pentecostals/charismatics had their own version of the bible, as far as I know they use the same ones baptists use.

Bibles arent divided into denoms with the exception of catholic bibles.

Nor had I heard of it.

twin1954 · May 26, 2016

preacherinblack said:
What do people think of the Modern English version (MEV) ? Also is it a primarily Charismatic/Pentecostal version ? I'm thinking of getting it but I don't know.

From what I can tell it is a formal equivalent translation based on the KJV. I wouldn't have a problem with it. It was published by the people who publish Charisma magazine but I don't believe it to be a primary Charismatic translation.

turtlejoy · May 26, 2016

twin1954 said:
From what I can tell it is a formal equivalent translation based on the KJV. I wouldn't have a problem with it. It was published by the people who publish Charisma magazine but I don't believe it to be a primary Charismatic translation.

Yeah I haven't noticed any Charismatic or Pentecostal slant so far. It's a translation that was put into motion by a military chaplain that was eventually taken up by a publisher (Charisma / Passio) that just happens to be a Charismatic organization. They were basically a publisher who didn't have their own Bible translation yet (and it can get expensive paying royalties when quoting from translations by other publishers) and decided to pick up MEV. I could be wrong, but that's what I picked up.
That said, I trust it. My pastor reads mostly from NKJV and MEV's rendering is similar if not the same at some areas.
MEV however does NOT employ italics like KJV and NKJV, which is mildly disappointing for me. The footnotes are very sparse but I like that, many of the pages is just pure scripture on the page, no distracting footnotes... so for me it makes a great reading Bible, and I can remain using my KJV as my source study Bible

JM · May 26, 2016

I just visited the website and look forward to reading though it.

Edited.

Just this translation does use the modern form of textual criticism, however minimal, not a fan. At least the notes are at the bottom of the page and not in the text. (see John 8)

Yours in the Lord,

jm
PS: Good price for a copy.

JM · May 28, 2016

A video review.

OzSpen · May 29, 2016

JM said:
A video review.

Here is another 'Review of the Modern English Version' (Patheos).

Travis93 · May 30, 2016

Here's an issue I found, why does the MEV say Elhanan killed Goliath, I thought it was David?

2 Samuel 21:19 Once again, there was a battle with the Philistines at Gob. On this occasion, Elhanan the son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite struck down Goliath the Gittite, whose spear shaft was like a weaver’s beam.

Why does the MEV say all the people led out of Egypt rebelled, weren't Joshua and Caleb faithful?

Hebrews 3:16 For who were they who heard and rebelled? Was it not all of those who came out of Egypt, led by Moses?

Swan7 · May 31, 2016

MEV seems to be mixed with some Hebrew names. I think it's fine to read so long as you are aware of that and do the research so as not to become confused.

mikedsjr · May 31, 2016

Travis93 said:
Here's an issue I found, why does the MEV say Elhanan killed Goliath, I thought it was David?

2 Samuel 21:19 Once again, there was a battle with the Philistines at Gob. On this occasion, Elhanan the son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite struck down Goliath the Gittite, whose spear shaft was like a weaver’s beam.

Why does the MEV say all the people led out of Egypt rebelled, weren't Joshua and Caleb faithful?

Hebrews 3:16 For who were they who heard and rebelled? Was it not all of those who came out of Egypt, led by Moses?

I'm not sure what your issue is with Hebrews 3:16.

2 Samuel could be "typo".

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Travis93 · May 31, 2016

mikedsjr said:
I'm not sure what your issue is with Hebrews 3:16.

2 Samuel could be "typo".

Why would they include wrong information in a book that is supposed to be the word of God? The King James version correctly reads that Elhanan killed the brother of Goliath, rather than Goliath himself. As for Hebrews 3:16, recall that in Numbers 14:30 God declared that the people he led out of Egypt would not enter the promised land as the result of their disobedience, except for Joshua and Caleb who were faithful. The King James version correctly reads that not everyone disobeyed, but the MEV says all of them did, which is a lie.

OzSpen · Jun 1, 2016

preacherinblack said:
What do people think of the Modern English version (MEV) ? Also is it a primarily Charismatic/Pentecostal version ? I'm thinking of getting it but I don't know.

One of my major difficulties with the MEV is its reliance on the Textus Receptus for the NT. I have written about this in, The Greek Text, the KJV, and English translations.

As a teacher of NT Greek, there are other translations that I would choose before the MEV. These would include the NASB, ESV, NIV and NLT, the first two following formal equivalence translation philosophy and the latter two following dynamic equivalence translation philosophy.

Oz

mikedsjr · Jun 1, 2016

Travis93 said:
Why would they include wrong information in a book that is supposed to be the word of God? The King James version correctly reads that Elhanan killed the brother of Goliath, rather than Goliath himself. As for Hebrews 3:16, recall that in Numbers 14:30 God declared that the people he led out of Egypt would not enter the promised land as the result of their disobedience, except for Joshua and Caleb who were faithful. The King James version correctly reads that not everyone disobeyed, but the MEV says all of them did, which is a lie.

Maybe the translator and editor both just didn't catch the mistake regarding David. It happens.

As for Hebrews, that's an issue over how one views the KJVs accuracy. And I know how this fight ends and I'm not getting in to it.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dave-W · Jun 14, 2016

Travis93 said:
Here's an issue I found, why does the MEV say Elhanan killed Goliath, I thought it was David?

Travis93 said:
The King James version correctly reads that not everyone disobeyed, but the MEV says all of them did, which is a lie.

And what does the Hebrew text say?

Travis93 · Jun 15, 2016

DaveW-Ohev said:
And what does the Hebrew text say?

I can't read Hebrew, but I don't have to in order to see those examples I gave are clear contradictions within the new version itself. I should hope the originals don't include blatant lies like those, otherwise my faith is in vain. If some of the bible is a lie what makes the rest of it trustworthy?

DeaconDean · Jun 15, 2016

"יט וַתְּהִי-עוֹד הַמִּלְחָמָה בְּגוֹב, עִם-פְּלִשְׁתִּים; וַיַּךְ אֶלְחָנָן בֶּן-יַעְרֵי אֹרְגִים בֵּית הַלַּחְמִי, אֵת גָּלְיָת הַגִּתִּי, וְעֵץ חֲנִיתוֹ, כִּמְנוֹר אֹרְגִים. {ס}"

Translated: "And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob; and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Beth-lehemite slew Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam."

Source

John Gill comments:

"Verse 19

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines,.... Another battle with them in the same place:

1 Chronicles 20:5; where his name is said to be Lahmi, for not Goliath himself was slain, though some so interpret it, and take Elhanan to be David; so Jarchi, and with which agrees the Targum; but he was slain not at Gob, but in the valley of Elah, nor had David any such name as Elhanan; he was one of David's worthies, 2 Samuel 23:24; where he is called the son of Dodo, and in 1 Chronicles 20:5, the son of Jair; and Lahmi there may not be the name of Goliath's brother, but, as here, the country name of Elhanan; for the wordsF26Vid. Buxtorf. Anticritic. par. 2. c. 2. p. 421. there may be rendered,"and Elhanan the son of Jair, the Lehemite (i.e. the Bethlehemite), slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite,'and so perfectly agrees, with this:

the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam; not of Goliath's brother, but of Goliath himself, 1 Samuel 17:7.

Source

It would appear that this talks of another war, in another place, at another time, by different people.

God Bless

Till all are one.

Modern English version question

the Hot Gospeler in black

Member

Reading the Bible

Fading curmudgeon

Baptist by the Bible

Member

Confessional Free Catholic

Confessional Free Catholic

Regular Member

Well-Known Member

Made in the image of His Grace

Master Newbie

Well-Known Member

Regular Member

Master Newbie

Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner!

Well-Known Member

γέγονα χαλκὸς, κύμβαλον ἀλαλάζον

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency