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[marcusjan]

I dont accept added church teachings as the truth
I dont accept the infallibility of the pope
I refuse to believe that the cookie one recieves during the mass of the table{eucharist}is the body of christ.
when I go to confession I know that I am talking to a man and not Jesus.
I dont pray to saints and certainly not to Mary
God has no mother.
When I enter church I want to pull down all the statues for God has forbidden them.
I dont believe that the church holds my salvation in their hands.
and I can go on and on.

makes me wonder........
but I love mass and accept the Holy Catholic Church as the church that God founded and I wish to stay visting church and remain Catholic.

 

[HamletsChoice]

I dont accept added church teachings as the truth
I dont accept the infallibility of the pope
I refuse to believe that the cookie one recieves during the mass of the table{eucharist}is the body of christ.
when I go to confession I know that I am talking to a man and not Jesus.
I dont pray to saints and certainly not to Mary
God has no mother.
When I enter church I want to pull down all the statues for God has forbidden them.
I dont believe that the church holds my salvation in their hands.
and I can go on and on.

makes me wonder........
but I love mass and accept the Holy Catholic Church as the church that God founded and I wish to stay visting church and remain Catholic.

The reformers felt the same way, and the Protestant Church was born. The Pilgrims and Puritans felt the same way, and America was born. As the Roman Catholic Church loves to teach, it's not enough to just believe you gotta do!

 

[marcusjan]

faith in God thats all you need!!!!!!!!

 

[Jon_]

I dont accept added church teachings as the truth
I dont accept the infallibility of the pope
I refuse to believe that the cookie one recieves during the mass of the table{eucharist}is the body of christ.
when I go to confession I know that I am talking to a man and not Jesus.
I dont pray to saints and certainly not to Mary
God has no mother.
When I enter church I want to pull down all the statues for God has forbidden them.
I dont believe that the church holds my salvation in their hands.
and I can go on and on.

makes me wonder........
but I love mass and accept the Holy Catholic Church as the church that God founded and I wish to stay visting church and remain Catholic.

Come out from them, my brother! Now is the time. Hear the call of the Holy Spirit within your heart. You recognize Catholic idolatry for what it is. Come out from them and come into the church of Jesus Christ.

The Catholic does not and cannot save, brother. Your heart is clearly burdened by their pagan practices. Do not be party to them! You must break yourself away from the Church. All its ceremonies and rituals are designed to conceal evil and deceptive doctrines. Do not allow yourself to be taken in by the lies. Mass is not a Christian rite! There is one sacrifice, Jesus Christ. His cross work is complete. And if you will hear his voice and confess your sins, your transgressions will be washed away by the blood of the Lamb.

Won't you come out from the wolves and into the flock with the sheep? Put your faith in Christ, not in pagan rituals and traditions of men.

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

 

[jonas3]

Come out from them, my brother! Now is the time. Hear the call of the Holy Spirit within your heart. You recognize Catholic idolatry for what it is. Come out from them and come into the church of Jesus Christ.

The Catholic does not and cannot save, brother.

The Catholic church does not save, but he's your brother in Christ and has the Holy Spirit within his heart?

Your heart is clearly burdened by their pagan practices. Do not be party to them!

True, do not be a part of them, but don't become a part of the False Prophet Protestant harlot church either! The second beast is just as wicked as the first.

You must break yourself away from the Church. All its ceremonies and rituals are designed to conceal evil and deceptive doctrines. Do not allow yourself to be taken in by the lies. Mass is not a Christian rite! There is one sacrifice, Jesus Christ. His cross work is complete. And if you will hear his voice and confess your sins, your transgressions will be washed away by the blood of the Lamb. Won't you come out from the wolves and into the flock with the sheep? Put your faith in Christ, not in pagan rituals and traditions of men.

The sheep believe the gospel (Mk 16:16, Jn 10:4-5, Ro 1:16-17, 1Jn 5:20, 2Jn 1:9), which is God's promise to save His people (Mat 1:21) conditioned on the atoning blood (Heb 9:12-14) and imputed righteousness of Christ alone (Ro 4:6-8). ALL (i.e. ALL) who don't not believe the gospel are lost (2Cor 4:3-4). Jesus Christ came and died to secure salvation for His people alone, and the rest of mankind is MADE to be destroyed (Ro 9:21-23). God only loves His elect (Jn 10:11, Jn 10:15, Jn 10:27, Eph 1:4-7, Eph 5:25-27), and God is angry with, and thus hates, the wicked every day (Ps 7:11).

-jonas

 

[strengthinweakness]

The reformers felt the same way, and the Protestant Church was born. The Pilgrims and Puritans felt the same way, and America was born. As the Roman Catholic Church loves to teach, it's not enough to just believe you gotta do!

I think that I agree with the spirit of what you are saying here, but I want to be sure. If "belief" is understood as a heart-and-mind acceptance of the facts of the Gospel, necessarily leading to a true transfomation of one's life, resulting in good works done out of gratitude to God-- that is saving faith. If "belief" is understood as mere intellectual acceptance of the facts of the Gospel, without true surrender of one's life to Christ and true repentance for one's sins, not leading to a life of such good works-- that is not saving faith.

I firmly believe (because the Bible teaches it) that we, as sinners, can do nothing, no amount of good works, to earn eternal life with God. God alone saves us, and He does it by His grace, granting us faith in Him and repentance unto eternal life. Faith and repentance are both gifts of God's free grace, for which we can only sincerely ask. Even if we do so, our asking itself is due to God's grace. It is proof that He is already at work in us, saving us not because we are good but for His glory. We are saved by grace alone through faith alone by Christ alone. If, however, we "profess" faith in Christ, and our lives display no real change, we almost certainly are not truly saved. Our "belief" is not genuine saving faith. True "believing" leads to "doing." (Not in the ritualistic sense of the Catholic Church though, with works-based penance for sins often substituting for real Biblical repentance.) The doing of good works will not save us, but if we do not often do good works, (albeit imperfectly and sometimes inconsistently) then we are, at the least, supremely ungrateful for our salvation. At worst, we may very well not be saved at all.

 

[strengthinweakness]

True, do not be a part of them, but don't become a part of the False Prophet Protestant harlot church either! The second beast is just as wicked as the first.

"Fasle Prophet Protestant harlot church"? The Protestant Reformation recovered the full Biblical gospel, and the Protestant churches which still teach those truths today are not harlots. I am curious-- are you a follower of the teachings of Harold Camping?

 

[rnmomof7]

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