Mixed Messages.....

[RND]

BTW, what does this post have to do with the OP? Geez, talk about "derailing" a thread! Haven't decided to take your own advice yet Moriah?

Here, start shopping!!

Looks like a "woman's" clothing store. I doubt they carry anything in my size. But they might have the perfect fit for you Moriah. I bet you'd look "fab-boo" in that flashy little number on the left!

 

[Adventtruth]

Who says you gotta shop?

AT

Here, start shopping!!

 

[Adventtruth]

BTW, what does this post have to do with the OP? Geez, talk about "derailing" a thread! Haven't decided to take your own advice yet Moriah?



Looks like a "woman's" clothing store. I doubt they carry anything in my size. But they might have the perfect fit for you Moriah. I bet you'd look "fab-boo" in that flashy little number on the left!

Its obvious she was poking at me with that picture of the store with the title get a clue above the door refering to her muzzle comment to me, but whatever, who cares. Its not important....I think it was really self serving.


AT

 

[RND]

Its obvious she was poking at me with that picture of the store with the title get a clue above the door refering to her muzzle comment to me, but whatever, who cares. Its not important....I think it was really self serving.


AT

Hey AT, I thought it was in reference to this comment Stormy directed at me!

while I don't know you, its clear you have no clue and apparently don't know where to go to find one....

I just simply thought Moriah was offering some friendly advice as to where I might find a clue. Unfortunately, I don't think she realized that I probably wouldn't find one there to fit, considering it appears to be a "woman's" clue store.

But if it the post wasn't directed at me and at you instead do you think this store has anything in your size or style?

 

[Adventtruth]

Hey AT, I thought it was in reference to this comment Stormy directed at me!

I just simply thought Moriah was offering some friendly advice as to where I might find a clue. Unfortunately, I don't think she realized that I probably wouldn't find one there to fit, considering it appears to be a "woman's" clue store.

But if it the post wasn't directed at me and at you instead do you think this store has anything in your size or style?

Nope!

AT

 

[StormyOne]

Yes. Whatever.



Are you suggesting you didn't really mean those comments you made?



Certainly, without question they are. But their thoughts as expressed are generally a reflection of their beliefs.



Yes, I know, I know, I have no clue. For the umpteenth time you've said that. You're like a broken record. Unfortunately, that's the only argument you can make in light of the clear thoughts that you've expressed. Instead of expanding the thought on your beliefs to make yourself somewhat clearer and more understandable in an effort to expand the discussion, you project the thought to me that "you have no clue" as a mask in an attempt to obscure the obvious.

Stormy, if you feel so strongly about what your beliefs are you should be prepared to have a discussion about them. If you don't want to do that, that is, discuss your thoughts, then may I suggest you stop starting threads.

oh clueless one..... prior to your entrance we were having an discussion.... since you arrived and have attempted to put everyone in the box you inhabit, discussion has been derailed..... last time, just because you like the box you are in doesn't mean others have to join you there....

As this is the progressive section, and usually we discuss things from that view, I will start threads anytime I wish.... if you cannot grasp it, perhaps there are other sub-forums more suitable to your views.... like the traditional sda section, cause clearly your ability to think outside the box is severely impaired......

 

[bellanegra1]

You mean it's impossible to get a glimpse and an understanding of God's character and nature through reading scripture?

Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Talk about making images.............

Creating The Creator in one's image is does not constitute an understanding of HIM.......

 

[bellanegra1]

No, not at all. It means until you leave time and enter eternity in absolute perfection you simply cannot escape this:

1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Believing in any way, shape, or form that having the "mind of Christ" means you have transcended the limitations of human existence and entered the realm of omniscience, where your perceptions constitute or equate to God's Himself, constitutes the worst form of spiritual arrogance, blindness, and self-deception available on the planet.

It bes most unfortunate, indeed, that churches exist out there that either actively encourage or passively neglect to discourage this kind of folly. Some even actively pressure their members into these lies, by insisting one must enter a state of sinless perfection here, now, in THIS sinful flesh, in order to be saved or (the more subtle but no less deadly version) in order to "prove" one bes saved. Believing that lie creates its own form of madness, compared to which even possession by demons would be preferable for the ultimate disposition of the soul. (At least the possessed can name their affliction and hope to be delivered.)

Truly......

 

[bellanegra1]

God knows more about suffering then we will ever know. I have faith that He is doing the right thing.

Being blindly led by the blind is NOT faith..........

Just because it talks about the unseen does not mean we ought to be ignorant on purpose.......

 

[RND]

oh clueless one.....

Some things never change. Next I suppose you'll tell me your dad can beat my dad up.

prior to your entrance we were having an discussion....

Not really.

since you arrived and have attempted to put everyone in the box you inhabit, discussion has been derailed.....

How was asking you a few questions, that you didn't answer, derailing the thread?

last time, just because you like the box you are in doesn't mean others have to join you there....

Last time for what?

As this is the progressive section, and usually we discuss things from that view, I will start threads anytime I wish....

Hey, start all the threads you wish. But just don't cry "derailment" because there are questions asked that you don't want to face or consider.

if you cannot grasp it, perhaps there are other sub-forums more suitable to your views....

There is nothing precluding me from discussing anything in this forum.

like the traditional sda section, cause clearly your ability to think outside the box is severely impaired......

According to you. But at least I'm not the one afraid of addressing the actual topic in the OP such as you Stormy. Attacking me and what I have brought up in this thread is simply your way of trying to take the heat off of yourself and your failure to discuss the things brought up in the OP.

So, in reality, who's the one that's "impaired?"

 

[RND]

Talk about making images.............

Creating The Creator in one's image is does not constitute an understanding of HIM.......

Are you suggesting that Paul was creating Jesus Christ in his image - in that Paul clearly thought of this notion before I did? Are you suggesting that it is impossible, by beholding the Creator of the universe, to begin to in some way begin to "think" like the Creator "thinks?"

 

[StormyOne]

Some things never change. Next I suppose you'll tell me your dad can beat my dad up.



Not really.



How was asking you a few questions, that you didn't answer, derailing the thread?



Last time for what?



Hey, start all the threads you wish. But just don't cry "derailment" because there are questions asked that you don't want to face or consider.



There is nothing precluding me from discussing anything in this forum.



According to you. But at least I'm not the one afraid of addressing the actual topic in the OP such as you Stormy. Attacking me and what I have brought up in this thread is simply your way of trying to take the heat off of yourself and your failure to discuss the things brought up in the OP.

So, in reality, who's the one that's "impaired?"

you are the impaired one....you started with the attacks... and you have yet to comprehend the OP.... those are all your issues... do not expect me to crawl into your box and accept your thinking..... I have responded to your attacks of me... since you are unable to comprehend you have attempted to change the focus of this discussion.... that is usually the case with those unable to think outside the box..... and you still have no clue....

 

[RND]

you are the impaired one....

Continued name calling Stormy?

you started with the attacks...

By asking questions?

and you have yet to comprehend the OP....

I understand it just fine. You've made your thoughts abundantly clear.

those are all your issues...

Nope. Those are clearly your issues. Grow, move past them.

do not expect me to crawl into your box and accept your thinking.....

How can this reasoning lead to anything other than a "one way" conversation?

I have responded to your attacks of me...

What attacks?

since you are unable to comprehend you have attempted to change the focus of this discussion....

The focus of the conversation has always been your misunderstanding of the nature and character of God as expressed in the OP.

that is usually the case with those unable to think outside the box.....

How cliche.

and you still have no clue....

And you're still in the sand box.

 

[RND]

You know Stormy, if I were you I'd "re-read" page #10 of this thread. It is evident this is where you began to fall off your "trike."

 

[StormyOne]

ummm no need RND, you are not me and to suggest what I should do (which is what you have been doing for several posts) is the ultimate in arrogance.... typical...... you might want to go back to the wading pool...... the OP has nothing to do with the "character of God" but you continue to try to spin it that way.... you remain clueless.... from the start you have engaged in attacking me, my knowledge of God or lack of in your opinion, interesting that you cannot see that..... as I said.... you are clueless....

 

[mva1985]

not much comfort for those being beat down, homeless, or losing life and limb..... Satan..... I suspect because of some of the answers that have been offered so far that people ignore what christians have to say.....

And how exactly would you answer someone with the questions that you posed. Just curious.

Sorry if you already did this - I haven't followed the whole thread.

 

[RND]

the OP has nothing to do with the "character of God" but you continue to try to spin it that way....

Actually it has everything to do with God's character in spite of your constant denials that it doesn't. In fact, as I have pointed out consistently, the collective weight of all your comments in this thread question the character and nature of God.

Your comments in post #94 can be specifically atributed to your individual notion that when there is trouble or turmoil then by extension it must be God's fault.

....Christians say God will take care of you, that you can trust God, yet we see daily horrific suffering.... so either God will or God will not provide care.... or maybe there is another possibility....

you remain clueless....

Oy Vey! Don't you have another insult you could hurl my way? I would like to see you mix a few new ones in there at least.

from the start you have engaged in attacking me, my knowledge of God or lack of in your opinion, interesting that you cannot see that.....

I never attacked you. You are displaying your lack of understanding about God's nature and character on your own.

as I said.... you are clueless....

Glad to see you can at least insult folks while riding a trike. I guess it beats trying to defend the indefensible comments you're prone to make.

 

[StormyOne]

Actually it has everything to do with God's character in spite of your constant denials that it doesn't. In fact, as I have pointed out consistently, the collective weight of all your comments in this thread question the character and nature of God.

Your comments in post #94 can be specifically atributed to your individual notion that when there is trouble or turmoil then by extension it must be God's fault.

Oy Vey! Don't you have another insult you could hurl my way? I would like to see you mix a few new ones in there at least.

I never attacked you. You are displaying your lack of understanding about God's nature and character on your own.

Glad to see you can at least insult folks while riding a trike. I guess it beats trying to defend the indefensible comments you're prone to make.

clueless......

 

[RND]

clueless......

Trike rider.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

I think it was really self serving.

Not half as self-serving as the way you and RND have completely trashed this thread and made it impossible to continue discussing the OP and the subjects it raises for us. Why don't you two please pick up your private judgments against everyone else here, which no one but yourselves seem to be interested in or accord any worth or value to, and just simply go home? We would like P/M/FA to be open to anyone, but that does not mean anyone coming in may trash the threads or the subforum MEMBERS here any way they please.
You have overstayed your welcome, the both of you. Bickering and arguing over this fact and constant whinges of "but YOU ... YOU ... YOU did ..." only prove Moriah's point here.

Please show yourselves to the door.