mixed and intermediate.

[Sammy-San]

Can something look mixed but not look intermediate? wolfdog images - Google Search

Or its a matter of opinion? With colors, all mixed colors are intermediate-practically it is exactly the same thing.

 

[Ophiolite]

Define mixed.
Define intermediate.
Define them in the context of which you are speaking.

Do so precisely and you stand a chance of eliminating twenty three thread pages of people talking at cross purposes.

 

[Sammy-San]

Define mixed.
Define intermediate.
Define them in the context of which you are speaking.

Do so precisely and you stand a chance of eliminating twenty three thread pages of people talking at cross purposes.

Combine or put together to form one substance or mass.

Coming between two things in time, place, order, character, etc.

Can a hybrid animal look mixed and not look in between?

All mixes of colors are intermediate, so they mean the same exact thing in the context of colors.

 

[Chesterton]

Can something look mixed but not look intermediate? wolfdog images - Google Search

Yes, I like to mix eggs over easy with chili. It just looks mixed, not intermediate.

Or its a matter of opinion? With colors, all mixed colors are intermediate-practically it is exactly the same thing.

I think you might be misusing the word "intermediate". Yellow is not "coming between" red and green in any sense I can think of. Yellow is something new and distinct, even if derivative.

 

[Sammy-San]

Yes, I like to mix eggs over easy with chili. It just looks mixed, not intermediate.

I think you might be misusing the word "intermediate". Yellow is not "coming between" red and green in any sense I can think of. Yellow is something new and distinct, even if derivative.

white and red mixed make the intermediate pink.

 

[Chesterton]

white and red mixed make the intermediate pink.

You just substituted pink for my yellow example. In what way is pink intermediate?

 

[Ophiolite]

Can a hybrid animal look mixed and not look in between?

As per your definition, yes, with an important caveat. I should have asked you to define "look".

A hybrid animal may well "look" mixed if we "look" at its genome and compare it with the animals that contributed to the hybrid. At the same time there is no need for it to have an "in between" physical appearance. However, while I see no theoretical objection to this state of affairs I am not aware if the condition is actually met with in nature - but it's not the sort of thing I've ever looked for.

 

[Sammy-San]

You just substituted pink for my yellow example. In what way is pink intermediate?

Pink is in between white and red.

Pink is also called a light tint of red.

 

[Sammy-San]

Yes, I like to mix eggs over easy with chili. It just looks mixed, not intermediate.

I think you might be misusing the word "intermediate". Yellow is not "coming between" red and green in any sense I can think of. Yellow is something new and distinct, even if derivative.

If you see both wolf and dog in a wolfdog's appearence, doesn't that make it an intermediary?

 

[Chesterton]

Pink is in between white and red.

Pink is also called a light tint of red.

Does a wave of a certain length "come between" waves of shorter and longer lengths? I guess you could say it does depending on how you want to classify things. But, funny you used pink for an example. Since it has no wavelength, some say it doesn't exist.

If you see both wolf and dog in a wolfdog's appearence, doesn't that make it an intermediary?

I'm not sure I understand the question, but here's a dictionary definition of "intermediate" - coming between two things in time, place, order, character, etc. Maybe it is a matter of opinion, depending on what you mean.

 

[Sammy-San]

Does a wave of a certain length "come between" waves of shorter and longer lengths? I guess you could say it does depending on how you want to classify things. But, funny you used pink for an example. Since it has no wavelength, some say it doesn't exist.


I'm not sure I understand the question, but here's a dictionary definition of "intermediate" - coming between two things in time, place, order, character, etc. Maybe it is a matter of opinion, depending on what you mean.

What do you mean?

You probably can show scientifically features of both animals, in the wolfdog.

 

[Chesterton]

What do you mean?

I don't know what you mean by intermediate. I don't really know what you're getting at with this thread.

You probably can show scientifically features of both animals, in the wolfdog.

Yes, you probably can.

 

[Sammy-San]

I don't know what you mean by intermediate. I don't really know what you're getting at with this thread.

Yes, you probably can.

In this context intermediate is a matter of perspective?

 

[Sammy-San]

You just substituted pink for my yellow example. In what way is pink intermediate?

On a spectrum its in between white and pink.

 

[Chesterton]

In this context intermediate is a matter of perspective?

I posted a dictionary definition. You tell me.

On a spectrum its in between white and pink.

No, pink is not on the "actual" spectrum, but you can put it on one of your own if you want.

 

[Brightmoon]

Let me see if I can figure this out
Take archaeopteryx. It’s a dinobird. Take one trait from column A and one from column B . It’s not the result of a bird having sex with a non-avian dinosaur . So it’s an intermediate but not a mix of two different species. Then there’s raphanobrassica which is both . It’s a mix of two different species ( allopolyploidy) and has traits from both parents so it’s also an intermediate.

Still not sure what you’re asking but it’s my take on the subject

 

[Sammy-San]

Let me see if I can figure this out
Take archaeopteryx. It’s a dinobird. Take one trait from column A and one from column B . It’s not the result of a bird having sex with a non-avian dinosaur . So it’s an intermediate but not a mix of two different species. Then there’s raphanobrassica which is both . It’s a mix of two different species ( allopolyploidy) and has traits from both parents so it’s also an intermediate.

Still not sure what you’re asking but it’s my take on the subject

in this context they mean the same exact thing.

 

[Brightmoon]

No they don’t . Archaeopteryx has traits of both birds and non-avian theropod dinosaurs . It’s also not a species forming hybrid like the plant is. A bird and a dinosaur didn’t mate to produce the animal.
Raphanobrassica is a allopolyploid hybrid of a radish and a cabbage that formed a fertile healthy new species that cannot mate with either parent species. A cabbage and a radish did mate to produce it.

A hybrid is a mix of two species. Zorses, mules, and ligers come to mind . These are all mixes that don't form new species. The plant is an intermediate species formed from a hybrid . Archaeopteryx is not a hybrid.

 

[Sammy-San]

As per your definition, yes, with an important caveat. I should have asked you to define "look".

A hybrid animal may well "look" mixed if we "look" at its genome and compare it with the animals that contributed to the hybrid. At the same time there is no need for it to have an "in between" physical appearance. However, while I see no theoretical objection to this state of affairs I am not aware if the condition is actually met with in nature - but it's not the sort of thing I've ever looked for.

What about this? intermediate makes sense or not? Part Coyote, Part Wolf, Part Dog: Enter the Coywolf

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

What about this? intermediate makes sense or not? Part Coyote, Part Wolf, Part Dog: Enter the Coywolf

It's a hybrid, a mix of the parent species.

Intermediate refers to a range between two extremes, so what are the two extremes in question?