Missing soldiers reportedly found dead

[TheBear]

While I may not "know" WHO I am dealing with....by your comments, it is obvious WHAT I am dealing with in YOU!!

You have no clue.

I will shoot it straight to YOU.

But what about all your 'live by the sword' talk?

 

[IndigoRose7]

You have no clue.

Illogical statement, Sir.

But what about all your 'live by the sword' talk?

What about it?

 

[MachZer0]

Let's be honest here, Sir. You know the Americans accused will get a trial and most likely have it "easy".

Exactly how do I know that? The information I read said that if found guilty, they could face the death penalty.

Those whom you suggest we "hunt down" would not have it so easy. That is the truth!

Let me remind you of yor own words

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Are the insurgents exempt from that?

 

[TheBear]

Illogical statement, Sir.



What about it?

You have just exposed yourself as being disingenuous and deceptive. Your double-standard says it all.

 

[IndigoRose7]

Exactly how do I know that? The information I read said that if found guilty, they could face the death penalty. Let me remind you of yor own words

How do you know that?

Remind me of my own words?

Yet, another illogical statemen; but I expect nothing less.

 

[IndigoRose7]

You have just exposed yourself as being disingenuous and deceptive. Your double-standard says it all.

Yes, you have. Thank you!

 

[Yusuf Evans]

As for the baby killers...those are your words, not mine...Sir.

Those are your words ma'am.

As for taking it "personally" that our soldiers are dying I think you really need to step back here. Don't you think the innocent children and civilians who are murdered by US soliders deserve a voice?

 

[IndigoRose7]

Those are your words ma'am.

Stating a true fact that innocent children and civilians have been killed by US troops is very different from the inflammatory words: "baby killers". You know that, though. Nice try at dodging the question.

 

[TheBear]

Yes, you have. Thank you!

I am overwhelmed by your wit. Kind of reminds me of that kindergarten song, "I'm rubber you're glue".

I guess we're done here. I have exposed you for who you are, and responses like this, reinforce my assesment.

 

[IndigoRose7]

I guess we're done here. I have exposed you for who you are, and responses like this, reinforce my assesment.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[IndigoRose7]

You have no clue...but what about all your live by the sword talk?

Oh before we close our lovely discourse let me say this to answer your question.

My statement: "live by the sword, die by the sword" is quoting Jesus the Christ. In this, He was not advocating violence...but standing against it. He said this in response to Peter cutting Malchus' ear off.

In this way, you have chosen to interpret my quote here as me advocating violence. This is incorrect. I am pointing out how foolish it is to start a war and then cry about the violence against Americans.
Sadly, the deaths on both sides are the result of Karmic Justice....thus the quote "live by the sword, die by the sword."

As for not having a clue on what you're about, well that is completely illogical.
Your words and tone reveal a great deal of what you're about, Sir.
If they don't then who is the real deceiver here?

Peace.

 

[TheBear]

My statement: "live by the sword, die by the sword" is quoting Jesus the Christ. In this, He was not advocating violence...but standing against it.

In this way, you have chosen to interpret my quote here as me advocating violence. This is incorrect.

Nope. Wrong again. I understood exactly what you said.

I am pointing out how foolish it is to start a war and then cry about the violence against Americans.

First off, soldiers don't start any war. That's the part that hasn't sunk in yet. Secondly, al Qaeda started the war with many events, culminating on 9/11. Thirdly, your remarks pretty much say our soldiers deserve to be mutilated and beheaded. Forthly, this has nothing to do with Iraq, per se, as those who did this were al Qaeda from Egypt.

You have no clue, and you make me sick.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

Stating a true fact that innocent children and civilians have been killed by US troops is very different from the inflammatory words: "baby killers". You know that, though. Nice try at dodging the question.

No, you didn't say killed. You said murdered. Big difference.

 

[IndigoRose7]

No, you didn't say killed. You said murdered. Big difference.

Forgive my error in semantics. I don't see US soliders as "baby killers" or murderers. However, I do believe this war is unjust and the US government is using these soliders to kill innocent people. Also, it is incorrect to assume that every US solider is a saint who is killing on behalf of the US and righteousness.

 

[Peacebestill]

the US government is using these soliders to kill innocent people.

 

[IndigoRose7]

Nope. Wrong again. I understood exactly what you said.

First off, soldiers don't start any war. That's the part that hasn't sunk in yet. Secondly, al Qaeda started the war with many events, culminating on 9/11. Thirdly, your remarks pretty much say our soldiers deserve to be mutilated and beheaded. Forthly, this has nothing to do with Iraq, per se, as those who did this were al Qaeda from Egypt.

You have no clue, and you make me sick.

You say you understand, but your remarks clearly indicate you do not. The cries for justice against those who kill Americans in this war, must be met with a reminder for those who supported this war that this IS WAR.....people KNOW that WAR is HELL and innocent lives are lost on all sides; yet, the powers that be and all their supporters INSIST on having wars.

As for me having a clue, at this point you don't care whether I really have a clue...just that you have the last word and are right. As for saying the US soliders started the war....I never said that, so your comments here are simply inflammatory with no purpose other than to abuse me.

At this point, I will not participate with you in further discussions on this matter. My words stand and my meanings are clear to those who care to understand.

Peace

 

[CCGirl]

Nope. Wrong again. I understood exactly what you said.

She makes an excellent point!

First off, soldiers don't start any war. That's the part that hasn't sunk in yet. Secondly, al Qaeda started the war with many events, culminating on 9/11. Thirdly, your remarks pretty much say our soldiers deserve to be mutilated and beheaded. Forthly, this has nothing to do with Iraq, per se, as those who did this were al Qaeda from Egypt.

You have no clue, and you make me sick.

Soldiers, however, willingly kill innocent women and children because it is their job. Al-Kidda did not "start" any wars, they used a terrorist tactic against the USA in response to decades of what they perceive as US/UK aggression. What she is saying is that if the soldiers willingly go into another sovereign nation, and the people fight back and oppose such occuptation, the soldiers who are willingly there are legitimate targets. There manner of death is irrelevant and perhaps fitting for many Iraqis. If most of the world is against the war, why do you think people would support the occupiers? Your patriotic ferver makes many people sick too.

 

[IndigoRose7]

Peacebestill....what is your point of posting that picture?

 

[IndigoRose7]

She makes an excellent point!


If most of the world is against the war, why do you think people would support the occupiers? Your patriotic ferver makes many people sick too.

Thanks, CCGirl.
Well stated.

Peace

 

[TheBear]

Soldiers, however, willingly kill innocent women and children because it is their job.

Let's say that every one of these allegations proves to be true. What happens to any soldier who is found guilty of this? Does th US pat them on back and proudly call it good news for Americans and God?

Al-Kidda did not "start" any wars, they used a terrorist tactic against the USA in response to decades of what they perceive as US/UK aggression.

"A" terrorist tactic? Shall we go over all the terrorist acts carried out by al Qaeda since the late 70's?

What she is saying

I'm done with her. I'll discuss this with you.

is that if the soldiers willingly go into another sovereign nation, and the people fight back and oppose such occuptation, the soldiers who are willingly there are legitimate targets.

Soldiers don't pick and choose where they are deployed. And the two who got mutilated and beheaded did not choose to be where they were ambushed. Do ya think they would rather be there than stateside?

There manner of death is irrelevant and perhaps fitting for many Iraqis. If most of the world is against the war, why do you think people would support the occupiers?

Newsflash - Saddam and his regime were toppled 3 years ago...thus ending the official war. There is a new, democratically elected government in place in Iraq. This sovereign nation, under the new, democratically elected president, wants US forces to stay until they are able to secure their own country. If President Jalal Al-Talabani tomorrow said, "Get out now!" to the US, there would be a full withdraw tomorrow. But he's not saying that. He wants us to stay until conditions are that we are no longer need to secure Iraq. Are you trying to impose your own will on a sovereign nation?

Your patriotic ferver makes many people sick too.

This has nothing to do with patriotsm. This has everything to do with rules of engagement.

Again, the official war is over....has been for three years. What we are looking at now, are barbaric acts not representative of the vast majority of Iraqis or the new government, in an attempt to thwart the will of the majority of Iraqi citizens. We're talking about an extremely small percentage of Iraqis, mixed with an import of al Qaeda. We are talking about people who don't take prisoners, but hostages. We are talking about people who not only allow torturous deaths of hostages, but celebrate it and give thanks to God over it.