Missing link was a lie

[Exial]

I fail to see any funny content in tomatomans post. Enlighten me plz so i mayz join in teh lulz?

 

[dad]

dad:


If that's your aim you are failing miserably. I, however, don't believe that this is your aim. In order to shake someone's views you have to do more than post moronic gibberish. I like to think the best of people, so I believe you have a different aim for which moronic gibberish is essential. I believe your aim is to prove that you are an imbecile. I have to admit you are succeeding magnificently, dad.

Thanks for sharing what you believe. Glad in some small way, you are impressed, for whatever reason. You cannot prove a same state past or future. Without that, your so called science crumbles and rots.

 

[dad]

There is no proof for a different state future either.

God says so. That works.

The Egyptian Old Kingdom.
The Egyptian Old Kingdom, Sumer and Akkad

Would you happen to have a point to the link? Do tell.

If God isn't going to give us the ability to choose sin in the New Jerusalem, why didn't he just skip the thousands of years of suffering and strife and not give Adam and Eve the choice to eat the fruit in the first place?

In life some of our best lessons come through experience, rather than looking at a chalk board.

I'll give you some time.

Hopefully by Wed night I will find 10 minutes to crack the riddle.

And how is that fulfilling scripture?

The part where He stopped was fulfilled. The rest is not yet. That involves His return to earth.

That was not the question though. Two Christians read Genesis 1. One Christians claims it is meant to be literal. The other Christians claims it is meant to be allegorical. Both claim inspiration from God. Who is right?

The one that believes it is real.

Answer me this, is there any physical evidence that would show the physical laws of the past were different from now?

If not, then science must admit it doesn't know. It is not an issue for me, I already know! They should be so lucky.



So, you claim your pic formation is pre split? Tell us about it? Where is it, what is it made of..etc?

 

[Tomatoman]

You cannot prove a same state past or future.

I don't need to, thanks. As has been pointed out to you dozens of times, but which you choose to ignore like a troll, the onus is on you to prove a different state past.

Without that, your so called science crumbles and rots.

Oh no, what will I do? Dad says science crumbles in the face of his devastating argument, an argument so shattering it has the whole scientific world reeling. What was his argument again? Oh yes, science is wrong because it proves the Bible is full of fiction, therefore science can't be right because the Bible can't be wrong, so there. Wow. That's going to put the cat among the pigeons. Cor, this dad bloke has really nailed it. Should make headline news worldwide soon:

"Internet forum poster called 'dad' has proved the whole of science wrong. More soon."

Actually, no. Dad hasn't nailed it. He's just posting rubbish on the internet (deliberately or not is up to you) in a very small section of a Christian forum where his insanity is at least tolerated as harmless; or to be more accurate, where his troll like behaviour can actually pass for a genuine religious viewpoint.

 

[Split Rock]

I don't need to, thanks. As has been pointed out to you dozens of times, but which you choose to ignore like a troll, the onus is on you to prove a different state past.

Dad plays by his own rules and expects everyone else to follow. So far, no one is, which is why I refer to "Dad's Lonely Church of One." Its hard being God's only one true prophet.

Oh no, what will I do? Dad says science crumbles in the face of his devastating argument, an argument so shattering it has the whole scientific world reeling. What was his argument again? Oh yes, science is wrong because it proves the Bible is full of fiction, therefore science can't be right because the Bible can't be wrong, so there. Wow. That's going to put the cat among the pigeons. Cor, this dad bloke has really nailed it. Should make headline news worldwide soon:

It's much worse than that, Tomatoman. The Bible doesn't say anything about a different state past. It is all in dad's own head, based on his own faulty interpretation of scripture.

"Internet forum poster called 'dad' has proved the whole of science wrong. More soon."

"Film at 11:00."

 

[Split Rock]

God says so. That works.

God says nothing of the sort, Blasphemer! It is all from your own head. You are not God. You are not even "God's little echo."

The one that believes it is real.

They both believe it is real. That is the whole point! Not a single creationist here has ever been able to answer either of the following questions:

1. How is it that the biblical interpretations of all "true christians" are being guided by the Holy Spirit, yet they are different.

2, How does a creationist know if his interpretation of scripture is faulty?

 

[BananaSlug]

God says so. That works.

Does God actually say that or is it your interpretation of scripture?

Would you happen to have a point to the link? Do tell.

We have records from the Egyptian old kingdom. The Egyptian old kingdom was active both before and some time after this supposed "split", yet nothing is mentioned about the fundamental changes in the physical world. Interesting...

In life some of our best lessons come through experience, rather than looking at a chalk board.

That does not answer the question.
If God isn't going to give us the ability to choose sin in the New Jerusalem, why didn't he just skip the thousands of years of suffering and strife and not give Adam and Eve the choice to eat the fruit in the first place?

Hopefully by Wed night I will find 10 minutes to crack the riddle.

Take your time.

The part where He stopped was fulfilled. The rest is not yet. That involves His return to earth.

So it was fulfilled because he read it? Maybe you should read all of Isaiah 61, it is a song of praise, not a prophecy.

The one that believes it is real.

Which one? The literalist or the allegorist?

If not, then science must admit it doesn't know.

That is the whole point! There is no evidence that shows the physical laws of the past were different from now. If there is no evidence to support it then there is no reason to assume it was different.

It is not an issue for me, I already know! They should be so lucky.

You know for 100% certainty?

So, you claim your pic formation is pre split? Tell us about it? Where is it, what is it made of..etc?

Archean pillow lava from the Pilbara region of Western Australia. Pillow lava is formed underwater.

 

[Dave101]

I need 15 posts to send a pm.
Sorry.

 

[Orogeny]

Does God actually say that or is it your interpretation of scripture?

What's the difference?

 

[Split Rock]

What's the difference?

For dad, there really is no difference. His faulty interpretation of scripture is "God's Word." It is do to the arrogance of believing you are "God's little echo."

 

[Orogeny]

It's funny how those of us who are the most vocal about our faith and our connection with god are the farthest from him, isn't it?

 

[AirPo]

It's funny how those of us who are the most vocal about our faith and our connection with god are the farthest from him, isn't it?

I guess that's what the split universe is all about.

 

[dad]

19 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: ‘Surely I will give the land of Egypt to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; he shall take away her wealth, carry off her spoil, and remove her pillage; and that will be the wages for his army. 20 I have given him the land of Egypt for his labor, because they worked for Me,’ says the Lord GOD. Ezekiel 29:19-20

It never happened.

OK, I found 10 mins already. Looking at the commentators, it seems that the concensus is that it is already fulfilled. Who am I to argue?


"Necho II., the king of Egypt, gained a victory over the Assyrians at Carchemish. (See JOSIAH; MEGIDDO .) This secured to Egypt the possession of the Syrian provinces of Assyria, including Palestine. The remaining provinces of the Assyrian empire were divided between Babylonia and Media. But Nabopolassar was ambitious of reconquering from Necho the western provinces of Syria, and for this purpose he sent his son with a powerful army westward (Daniel 1:1). The Egyptians met him at Carchemish, where a furious battle was fought, resulting in the complete rout of the Egyptians, who were driven back (Jeremiah 46:2-12), and Syria and Phoenicia brought under the sway of Babylon (B.C. 606). From that time "the king of Egypt came not again any more out of his land" (2 Kings 24:7). Nebuchadnezzar also subdued the whole of Palestine, and took Jerusalem, carrying away captive a great multitude of the Jews, among whom were Daniel and his companions (Daniel 1:1,2; Jeremiah 27:19; 40:1). "

A clay tablet, now in the British Museum, bears the following inscription, the only one as yet found which refers to his wars: "In the thirty-seventh year of Nebuchadnezzar, king of the country of Babylon, he went to Egypt [Misr] to make war. Amasis, king of Egypt, collected [his army], and marched and spread abroad." Thus were fulfilled the words of the prophet (Jeremiah 46:13-26; Ezekiel 29:2-20). Having completed the subjugation of Phoenicia, and inflicted chastisement on Egypt, Nebuchadnezzar now set himself to rebuild and adorn the city of Babylon

Nebuchadnezzar - Easton's Bible Dictionary on StudyLight.org

"[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Geneva]Therefore thus saith the Lord God…
Since this was the case, that the king of Babylon had been working for nothing, and had spent much blood and treasure, as well as time, to little purpose and advantage to himself; behold, I will give the land of Egypt to Nebuchadrezzar king of
Babylon;
which will make him a sufficient recompence for his loss of time, men, and money, before Tyre; and though the conquest of Egypt was made easy to him, by the internal divisions and wars which were among the Egyptians; yet these were suffered, and ordered by the providence of God, to bring about this his will, by way of righteous punishment of the Egyptians, for their treachery to his people, and other sins: and he shall take her multitude,
of soldiers, and of inhabitants, and carry them captive: and take her spoil, and take her prey;
that which the Egyptians had spoiled other nations of and made a prey of that should now become the spoil and prey of the Chaldeans: and it shall be the wages for his army;"

Ezekiel - Chapter 29 - Verse 19 - The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible on StudyLight.org

So, taking a spoil, then refers to paying for his Tyre war...
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[dad]

It's funny how those of us who are the most vocal about our faith and our connection with god are the farthest from him, isn't it?

So, how does it work? If I have no faith, and deny the faith, I am close to your 'god'?

 

[dad]

I don't need to, thanks....

Oh yes you do, Tman. Otherwise you cannot defend the premise, the foundation of so called science. It assumes a presnt state not only in the far past, but in the future. Really. That is the sole basis of all their dank and dreary discourses that dare to declare that they deal directly in the distant past.

Oh no, what will I do? Dad says science crumbles in the face of his devastating argument, an argument so shattering it has the whole scientific world reeling. What was his argument again? Oh yes, science is wrong because it proves the Bible is full of fiction, therefore science can't be right because the Bible can't be wrong, so there. Wow. That's going to put the cat among the pigeons. Cor, this dad bloke has really nailed it. Should make headline news worldwide soon:

"Internet forum poster called 'dad' has proved the whole of science wrong. More soon."

You can remain in denial. Pretend that a same state future is somehow science..
It is what it is.

Insulting is just a sign you have nothing honest to offer.

 

[dad]

It's much worse than that, Tomatoman. The Bible doesn't say anything about a different state past. It is all in dad's own head, based on his own faulty interpretation of scripture.

The differences are clear and pronounced. Any lurker can read something like this, to destroy your claim in minutes...

http://splitmerge.webs.com/split.pdf

 

[Orogeny]

So, how does it work? If I have no faith, and deny the faith, I am close to your 'god'?

No, it works like this: Have faith, be humble about (and because of) your faith. You are not an authority on the Christian faith, I am not either. Next to god, we are authorities on nothing. The difference is that I recognize this. The only authority on faith is God. You are not God's echo, and to call yourself such is a blasphemous and prideful shame. If I were you, I would end my arrogant, preening, pridful, deceitful ways before I met with the consequences.

ETA: It also means humbly accepting the abundant evidence around you that the past and the future have worked and will work exactly as the present does instead of calling god a liar by denying his creation, or arrogantly claiming to know how, why and when he did what he did.

 

[dad]

They both believe it is real. That is the whole point! Not a single creationist here has ever been able to answer either of the following questions:

1. How is it that the biblical interpretations of all "true christians" are being guided by the Holy Spirit, yet they are different.

People claim that?? I haven't met one yet, sorry. It is more a matter of what does the text actually say regarding creation? That is easy to figure out. One will read of Adam, and etc. All that remains is belief. Or lack therof.

2, How does a creationist know if his interpretation of scripture is faulty?

Someone comes along with new evidence that shows them that their take on things was wrong. Easy. Got any tough ones?

 

[dad]

Does God actually say that or is it your interpretation of scripture?

He says the future will be different. The past that is described is so similar, that it is a very solid and reasonable conclusion to reach that the far past was truly unlike the present.

We have records from the Egyptian old kingdom. The Egyptian old kingdom was active both before and some time after this supposed "split", yet nothing is mentioned about the fundamental changes in the physical world. Interesting...

Oh, reaaallllly? Show us!



That does not answer the question.
If God isn't going to give us the ability to choose sin in the New Jerusalem, why didn't he just skip the thousands of years of suffering and strife and not give Adam and Eve the choice to eat the fruit in the first place?




Take your time.



So it was fulfilled because he read it? Maybe you should read all of Isaiah 61, it is a song of praise, not a prophecy.



Which one? The literalist or the allegorist?



That is the whole point! There is no evidence that shows the physical laws of the past were different from now. If there is no evidence to support it then there is no reason to assume it was different.



You know for 100% certainty?



Archean pillow lava from the Pilbara region of Western Australia. Pillow lava is formed underwater.[/quote]

 

[dad]

No, it works like this: Have faith, be humble about (and because of) your faith.

Being humble doesn't include taking it up the tailpipe from so called science, and the lies that oppose the bible.

You are not an authority on the Christian faith, I am not either. Next to god, we are authorities on nothing.

Speak for yourself! I have all the absolute authority of God Almighty, as given to man in His word.

The difference is that I recognize this. The only authority on faith is God. You are not God's echo, and to call yourself such is a blasphemous and prideful shame. If I were you, I would end my arrogant, preening, pridful, deceitful ways before I met with the consequences.

To deny that believers echo the word of God in the bible, is to deny God gave us the thing. There is nothing prideful about believing God over man. In fact, cursed is man that trusteth in man.