Missing link was a lie

[BananaSlug]

Lie. No evidence for common descent exists in the minutest amount. None. Not beyond the descent from the common kind created ancestor.

Reptile or mammal?

 

[Split Rock]

Lie. No evidence for common descent exists in the minutest amount. None. Not beyond the descent from the common kind created ancestor.

Archaeopteryx: bird or theropod dinosaur?
Tiktaalik: Lobe-finned fish or tetrapod?
Cynodont? Reptile or mammal?

The connection to man was admitted as false. How many times per thread do you pronounce it over, when you run out of steam? That routine from you is getting comical.

Please give me a definition of the term, "lie." Then explain how the original paper describing the fossil find was not just a mistake, not just an opinion, but a lie.

 

[dad]

Reptile or mammal?

Do you mean the side view or top view? It doesn't matter, though. Not at all. What would I care if all reptiles were evolved from assorted created kinds or not? Point? As long as whatever dead thinies you post a picture of evolved from a kind, what else matters? The point being that no rock crack spawned all life. The kinds were the common ancestor.

 

[dad]

Archaeopteryx: bird or theropod dinosaur?
Tiktaalik: Lobe-finned fish or tetrapod?
Cynodont? Reptile or mammal?


Please give me a definition of the term, "lie." Then explain how the original paper describing the fossil find was not just a mistake, not just an opinion, but a lie.

A lie is something untrue, and specifically ungoldly as well as untrue in any sense I use the word, usually. So, if someone claims a common ancestor for all life, as some pond scum, it is a lie. Now, if one merely quibbles about how kinds evolved, that is not a lie, but mere ignorance.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you mean the side view or top view? It doesn't matter, though. Not at all. What would I care if all reptiles were evolved from assorted created kinds or not? Point? As long as whatever dead thinies you post a picture of evolved from a kind, what else matters? The point being that no rock crack spawned all life. The kinds were the common ancestor.

Notice that's a drawing?

Meaning that parts have probably been filled in.

And we worship a 'god of the gaps'?

Haeckel's spirit lives on, doesn't it?

Probably all they have on this thing is a tooth or something.

 

[dad]

Notice that's a drawing?

Meaning that parts have probably been filled in.

And we worship a 'god of the gaps'?

Haeckel's spirit lives on, doesn't it?

Probably all they have on this thing is a tooth or something.

I forgot about that angle. They do have a knack for creative reconstruction.

I don't have to worry about all that any more, though, because I can accept evolving as something His kinds were able to do in spades at the time. So I do not need a clear kind to now exist in some clear way. In other words, it doesn't matter to me if they got it right, and that this crocodile thingie, or whatever they want it to be, did evolve from a mammal that was a kind. It saves a lot of time, not needing to deny whatever they cook up.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Notice that's a drawing?

Meaning that parts have probably been filled in.

And we worship a 'god of the gaps'?

Haeckel's spirit lives on, doesn't it?

Probably all they have on this thing is a tooth or something.

The most important characteristics of mammal like reptiles are in the skulls. You can check out Thrinaxodon's here
Digimorph - Thrinaxodon liorhinus (fossil cynodont)

I have seen the one below myself several years ago at the Museum fur Naturkunde in Berlin which has a very good collection of mammal like reptiles as well as the famous Berlin specimen of Archaeopteryx



There is a little more than a tooth or something there.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't have to worry about all that any more, though, because I can accept evolving as something His kinds were able to do in spades at the time.

I sometimes wonder if the gestation periods were shorter back then -- for man and animal.

Ex 1:19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

This could easily account for where Cain got his wife too.

 

[AV1611VET]

There is a little more than a tooth or something there.

So could scientists Haeckel this thing in, based on finding only its skull?

 

[Split Rock]

A lie is something untrue, and specifically ungoldly as well as untrue in any sense I use the word, usually. So, if someone claims a common ancestor for all life, as some pond scum, it is a lie. Now, if one merely quibbles about how kinds evolved, that is not a lie, but mere ignorance.

A lie is a Falsehood. A lie is something that a person communicates that he/she knows is false or untrue. Now that you have a working definition of the meaning of a lie, how about providing us with evidence that the authors of the original paper deliberatly lied.

Notice that's a drawing?

Meaning that parts have probably been filled in.

And we worship a 'god of the gaps'?

Haeckel's spirit lives on, doesn't it?

Probably all they have on this thing is a tooth or something.

Sure, AVET, go ahead and make slanderous comments about things you are just guessing about. Or is it just willful self-delusion? "Oh, that fossilized skeleton shows me something I don't want to see.... must be made up from a tooth or something!"

Hey dad, how about applying your definition of "lie" to your "brother-in-Christ" here? Or is it only reserved for atheists, agnostics, and theistic evolutionists?

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure, AVET, go ahead and make slanderous comments about things you are just guessing about. Or is it just willful self-delusion? "Oh, that fossilized skeleton shows me something I don't want to see.... must be made up from a tooth or something!"

Prove me wrong -- show me this thing, and show me this thing as it matches its drawing.

 

[dad]

I sometimes wonder if the gestation periods were shorter back then -- for man and animal.

Me too. If mankind could have children, in say a 3 month pregnancy, that would allow for rapid population growth.

Ex 1:19 And the midwives said unto Pharaoh, Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are lively, and are delivered ere the midwives come in unto them.

This could easily account for where Cain got his wife too.

I never did figure out how that was a problem. Do we know the timeframe that Adam was in the garden, or Cain? I always assumed that there were girls born were not listed, because they were not the oldest male...so why not have Cain snag one?

 

[dad]

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Hey dad, how about applying your definition of "lie" to your "brother-in-Christ" here? Or is it only reserved for atheists, agnostics, and theistic evolutionists?

Questioning the way godless science glues puzzles together seems like a healthy exercise to me? Now if one knew that the puzzle was correct, and lied about it, that is another matter.

 

[MoonLancer]

and if people were born fully grown it would solve alot of other problems in the bible too. Also if bother and sister were not really brother and sister or they had some sort of highly condensed super dna that didn't degrade due to incest that would solve alot of bible problems too.

so much for evidence. I can come up with alot of ways to fix your religions glaring problems, but there is no evidence to support this.

also you say godless science like its a bad thing. It keeps people like you two from coming up with all kinds of unfounded and evidenced ideas to make a failing theology work.

Maybe sex wasn't even required. Maybe the sperm and egg were just mental concepts back that. after all it was a different state. So the man and the women only had to look at each-other and poof a fully formed adult was created with embedded language and ideas.

You guys are great keep it up.

 

[MoonLancer]

Prove me wrong -- show me this thing, and show me this thing as it matches its drawing.

if this is done would you accept anything differently. or will you make up more unfounded excuses.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do we know the timeframe that Adam was in the garden, or Cain?

I believe Usher (or maybe it's Scofield) dates the Fall as approximately one year after the Creation (thus BC 4003), but remember -- God only expelled them from the Garden -- not from Eden, proper.

23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

I'm not sure Adam and Eve ever visited Nod.

(They probably did, but I believe their home was Eden.)

 

[AV1611VET]

Questioning the way godless science glues puzzles together seems like a healthy exercise to me? Now if one knew that the puzzle was correct, and lied about it, that is another matter.

Check this doosey out, bro: 13.

Right after he accused some paper of lying, he tried it on me and got bit.

 

[dad]

and if people were born fully grown it would solve alot of other problems in the bible too. Also if bother and sister were not really brother and sister or they had some sort of highly condensed super dna that didn't degrade due to incest that would solve alot of bible problems too.

Rapid population, unrestricted by present genetic realities was the obvious order of the day.

Maybe sex wasn't even required. Maybe the sperm and egg were just mental concepts back that. after all it was a different state. So the man and the women only had to look at each-other and poof a fully formed adult was created with embedded language and ideas.

You guys are great keep it up.

Nope. Adam knew his wife. That is bible lingo for the wild thing.

 

[dad]

Check this doosey out, bro: 13.

Right after he accused some paper of lying, he tried it on me and got bit.

Guess they need to learn to be careful.

 

[dad]

I believe Usher (or maybe it's Scofield) dates the Fall as approximately one year after the Creation (thus BC 4043), but remember -- God only expelled them from the Garden -- not from Eden, proper.

23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

I'm not sure Adam and Eve ever visited Nod.

(They probably did, but I believe their home was Eden.)

Oh, I see how you look at it. Well, people started visiting all over the place after they left the garden. So why not take a gal with him? Maybe he even had one or two at the time he was banished? By the way, why would the fall be one year after creation? Why not a month, or 5 years, etc?