Misconceptions

[Catholic Christian]

God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

Catechism Of The Catholic Church:
http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/prologue.htm

 

[ScottBot]

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That about sums up the point of this thread.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Nice generalization.

Most Calvinist hate Catholicism because they have been trained that way and don't know any better.

Two can play this game. Its kinda fun.

Some even call ya'll "reprobates".

http://www.predestinarian.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4263

quote: Nicholas, it has posted numerous times on here, I don't think anyone here resents anyone for embracing the book of James as "canonical."
Yes it is in the canon, but reprobates put together the "canon." The "canon" as everyone calls it is an invention of men.

 

[Catholic Christian]

That about sums up the point of this thread.

Yes it does, but I added a little for the folks who think we don't belive in the Good News

 

[ScottBot]

Yes it does, but I added a little for the folks who think we don't belive in the Good News

Of course, the good news of the Pontiff.

Ring around the rosie.....

 

[TraderJack]

Nice generalization.

It's no generalization at all. It is a fact of the Roman system.

Most Calvinist hate Catholicism because they have been trained that way and don't know any better.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Two can play this game. Its kinda fun.

No problem as long as you understand that when you Romans make dogmatic assertions, anyone has the same right to make counter dogmatic assertions.

Understand?

 

[fated]

Yes it does, but I added a little for the folks who think we don't belive in the Good News

Everyone say with me:

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

 

[TraderJack]

Yes it does, but I added a little for the folks who think we don't belive in the Good News

Tell us terry, what is the "Good News"?

 

[fated]

It's no generalization at all. It is a fact of the Roman system.




You are entitled to your opinion.



No problem as long as you understand that when you Romans make dogmatic assertions, anyone has the same right to make counter dogmatic assertions.

Understand?

I will humble myself before the ancient Truth, which the Orthodox, Eastern, and Roman Rites cling, before I will proudly proclaim for myself what that truth is (or isn't).

This, actually, sets us free.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by terryobrien80
Yes it does, but I added a little for the folks who think we don't belive in the Good News

If ya'll didn't believe in the Good New, you wouldn't be called Christ-ians. Too many Christians take it more as "bad-news" for some reason. Can't understand that.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Matthew 3:2 And saying: "Reform ye! for has-neared/hggiken <1448> (5758) the Kingdom of the Heavens/ouranwn <3772>.

Mark 1:15 And saying, "Has been filled the Time, and has-neared/hggiken <1448> (5758) the Kingdom of the God. Be ye reforming!, and be ye believing! in the Good-Message.

Revelation 22:10 And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this. That the Time near/egguV <1451>, is.

 

[TraderJack]

God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

Catechism Of The Catholic Church:
http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/prologue.htm

That is not all it says.

It also says you cannot be saved without the Roman sacraments.

Rome also says you cannot be saved without being subject to the Roman pope.

Rome has added so much to the Gospel over the centuries to the point of having turned into another gospel, as Paul said to the Galatians, which is no good news at all.

One day terry, and all the Romans, yule have to learn the difference between a theological criticism and argument and an "insult".

 

[fated]

Tell us terry, what is the "Good News"?

I'll try again:

Everyone say with me:

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

 

[fated]

That is not all it says.

It also says you cannot be saved without the Roman sacraments.

That is false.

No, as Catholics we hold that any can be saved and further believe that it is not us who judge but God.

 

[sunlover1]

I'll try again:

Everyone say with me:

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

I heard you fated.


And i did say it too with ya.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by TraderJack
That is not all it says.

It also says you cannot be saved without the Roman sacraments.

Hi TJ. I think they get the point by now. Give it a rest bro.

Mark 1:15 And saying, "Has been filled the Time, and has-neared/hggiken <1448> (5758) the Kingdom of the God. Be ye reforming!, and be ye believing! in the Good-Message.

Revelation 22:10 And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this. That the Time near/egguV <1451>, is.

 

[ScottBot]

It's no generalization at all. It is a fact of the Roman system.

Just like the fact that God condemns some people to eternal damnation based on His own personal whim is a fact of the Calvinist religion?

You are entitled to your opinion.

Thanks, so are you. Fair is fair.

No problem as long as you understand that when you Romans make dogmatic assertions, anyone has the same right to make counter dogmatic assertions.

Understand?

Fine by me. I wil continue to make Roman assertions and you will continue to make Calvin's assertions. Got it.

 

[TraderJack]

I dont know either. Calling people heretics for instance... Did paul do that? If so did he have some certain authority to do so...

Paul did not mince words.

When the Judaizers were adding conditions for salvation that undermined the Gospel of Christ by Grace, through faith, Paul called them "ministers of Satan", 2 Corinthians 11;

12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

As soon as Rome added that it was absolutely "neccessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman pontiff", Rome followed in the footsteps of the Judaizers by adding conditions that undermined the Gospel of Christ.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

When the Judaizers were adding conditions for salvation that undermined the Gospel of Christ by Grace, through faith, Paul called them "ministers of Satan", 2 Corinthians 11;

So why not focus on them more?

Revelation 22:10 And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this. That the Time Is-near/egguV <1451>, is.

Luke 21:20 Whenever yet ye may be perceiving being compassed by armies/hosts, Jerusalem, then be ye knowing that has-neared/hggiken <1448> (5758) the Desolating of Her. [Daniel 12/Revelation 19/20]

 

[Catholic Christian]

Everyone say with me,

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

 

[Rhamiel]

Everyone say with me:

I was created by God to know and love Him for ever.

Not in the man made Calvinist religion some people were created to burn, and that is their purpose.
Of course Christianity teaches that God loves all mankind and wants friendship between God and man