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crjmurray

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i hate to say this because it will make me sound like a conspiracy wingnut.
i am convinced there is an active effort to eradicate evidence of the existence of jesus.
i have seen it posted on this board there is no evidence that jesus existed and no one has been able to prove otherwise.

with that in mind i've come to realize that i must protect my sources.

And who is involved in this active effort?
 
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"Miracles" seemed to abruptly stop occurring once we had explanations for natural phenomena. Weird.

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As far as miracles go, it's not something that cannot be examined --

Sure it is. And when we find a claimed "miracle" that was not an illusion, coincidence, trick, deception, exaggeration, complete fabrication, or simply imagined, we can then start pondering what it might be.
 
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I guess you have a lot of study to do, . . .
that could probably be said about anything and anybody.
As far as miracles go, it's not something that cannot be examined -- Dr. Gary Habermas, might be a good place for you to begin.
why include jesus though, if he was only a myth?
a study of miracles shouldn't have to include specific individuals, my opinion.
the individual becomes relevant when they somehow make miracles different from the rest, also my opinion.
 
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that could probably be said about anything and anybody.

why include jesus though, if he was only a myth?
a study of miracles shouldn't have to include specific individuals, my opinion.
the individual becomes relevant when they somehow make miracles different from the rest, also my opinion.

I would generally agree that it would be pointless to include Jesus, given that there is no way after all this time to really test the miracles associated with him. However, if a specific person claims to be able to produce miracles, they should be included in the evaluation.
 
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