miracles

[whois]

i would like the readers thought on the following quote:

In a generation like ours, when physical science has made such
enviable progress in the investigation of physical forces and laws, there is an a priori feeling against miracles. Some are inclined to dismiss miracles as things of the past which might have served a purpose in a prescientific age,
but which are of little value now and hardly credible.
Others, while loyally accepting facts once regarded as
supernatural, call in question their miraculousness, and suggest
various hypotheses by which they may be "explained."
On all sides there is a tendency to naturalize the miraculous. It is difficult, therefore, to extricate one's self from a
biased attitude. Then, too, miracles are no longer the ground of
faith to the extent in which they formerly were. And yet sooner
or later we must at least give thought and consideration to the miracles of the Gospels.

 

[crjmurray]

"Miracles" seemed to abruptly stop occurring once we had explanations for natural phenomena. Weird.

 

[AV1611VET]

Weird.

Dispensational.

 

[crjmurray]

Dispensational.

Convenient.

 

[AV1611VET]

Convenient.

Ontological Subordination.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

"Miracles" seemed to abruptly stop occurring once we had explanations for natural phenomena. Weird.

Weird? I believe miracles are still happening in Huntington Beach.

 

[crjmurray]

Weird? I believe miracles are still happening in Huntington Beach.

(Rimshot)

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

(Rimshot)

((Matthew 17:21))

 

[whois]

i guess the question i really have is this:
why would men of science be interested in discussing the "miracles" of a man that never existed?

 

[AV1611VET]

i guess the question i really have is this:
why would men of science be interested in discussing the "miracles" of a man that never existed?

To ridicule is my #1 answer.

 

[MissRowy]

You took the words out of my mouth. However not all scientists are atheists. There are scientists who are Christian

 

[whois]

To ridicule is my #1 answer.

doesn't apply.
this was apparently an honest and legit analysis, and it came from a science journal

 

[MissRowy]

Which one? Im curious?

 

[KWCrazy]

A miracle, by definition, violates the laws of nature. Science uses these laws to seek answers to the unexplained. The scientific method cannot explain the supernatural, nor can it invalidate it. Many things considered to be miracles are simply very strange coincidences. Does the fact that they are possible mean that they are not from God? I think not. As we come to the Lord through faith, irrefutable documented miracles would lessen the need for faith. One day all will know that God is real, but many will not learn that until it's too late.

 

[whois]

Which one? Im curious?

i hate to say this because it will make me sound like a conspiracy wingnut.
i am convinced there is an active effort to eradicate evidence of the existence of jesus.
i have seen it posted on this board there is no evidence that jesus existed and no one has been able to prove otherwise.

with that in mind i've come to realize that i must protect my sources.

 

[AV1611VET]

There are scientists who are Christian

Yes indeed!

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

i hate to say this because it will make me sound like a conspiracy wingnut.
i am convinced there is an active effort to eradicate evidence of the existence of jesus.
i have seen it posted on this board there is no evidence that jesus existed and no one has been able to prove otherwise.

with that in mind i've come to realize that i must protect my sources.

Nobody who's actually studied takes the Jesus Mythers seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqJyk-dtLs

 

[PsychoSarah]

You took the words out of my mouth. However not all scientists are atheists. There are scientists who are Christian

In most fields, the majority of scientists are religious in some regard.

 

[whois]

Nobody who's actually studied takes the Jesus Mythers seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqJyk-dtLs

i don't take the concept seriously either, but i do have honest questions.
number one of which, why concern ourselves with a man that never existed and his alleged miracles?
these people apparently have reason to believe both are legit.
the piece specifically focuses on how jesus seen his miracles, how they affected him.

personally, i find it hard to believe "myths" would be discussed by a science source in a manner that suggest they might be real.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

never existed

I guess you have a lot of study to do, to figure that one out before you start weighing with what he did.

As far as miracles go, it's not something that cannot be examined -- Dr. Gary Habermas, might be a good place for you to begin.