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So you're saying you can't answer the question regarding whether or not formula1 cars have DNA? Are you truly that ignorant or is this more unChristian purposeful dishonesty?
What is unChristian about purposeful dishonesty?

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What is unChristian about purposeful dishonesty?

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Aren't you supposed to be as truthful as possible? That is what I was always told growing up by my various priests.

Could just be me getting confused though.

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Colossians 3:9-11: "Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all."

I was never taught as a Christian that lying was acceptable. I recall verses saying lying is not acceptable but not verses that said it was OK.
 
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Oh it isn't my own medicine. If anything I appreciate honesty. When the answer is apparent even if it shows your comparison to be flawed just suck it up and be honest. I find your prideful nature to be totally hypocritical when looked at alongside your claimed belief in Christianity.
You guys, who like to accuse me of pride, don't know me; and pride is an easy accusation to make, isn't it?
Formula1 cars don't have DNA and they don't reproduce.
I'll say it again, KIP: I can play this game as well -- and I will, too.
 
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Suit yourself.
So you're saying you can't answer the question regarding whether or not formula1 cars have DNA?
They do -- and the DNA even speaks:
The talented driver has driven in several series like the A1 GP for Team Switzerland, GP2, Le Mans LMP1 series, Champ Car series in America and has also been the test and reserve driver for Formula One team Toro Rosso. DNA spoke to him about his racing career when he was in Bangalore.
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You guys, who like to accuse me of pride, don't know me; and pride is an easy accusation to make, isn't it?
I don't think many people in here are prideful. I consider it pride when someone doesn't admit their mistakes and it is something I don't find very appealing in a human being.


I'll say it again, KIP: I can play this game as well -- and I will, too.
It isn't a game. You can't compare fans and formula1 cars to the evolution of biological organisms. To do so is to misrepresent evolution. The only way it isn't a misrepresentation of evolution is if formula1 cars both possess DNA and can transfer that DNA to their offspring. This doesn't happen therefore the comparison is an idiotic one.

It honestly isn't a game I just don't like people misrepresenting arguments with strawman comparisons.
 
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Suit yourself.

They do -- and the DNA even speaks:

SOURCE
You're doing it again. You're just posting irrelevant garbage. You know exactly what I mean when I say DNA and offspring. You're being purposefully dishonest and it isn't something I appreciate. All I'm asking for here is some honesty. Is that too much to ask for?
 
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It isn't a game. You can't compare fans and formula1 cars to the evolution of biological organisms.
Like I said, tell that to those who shoved the gray scale in my face when I was talking the fossil record.

Your lament needs a tune-up, KIP.

You ignore virtually everything I bring up, and you're not getting any sympathy from me; but only because I think you're doing this on purpose -- as is Gracchus.
 
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You're doing it again. You're just posting irrelevant garbage. You know exactly what I mean when I say DNA and offspring. You're being purposefully dishonest and it isn't something I appreciate. All I'm asking for here is some honesty. Is that too much to ask for?
It's just a game, KIP -- don't panic.
 
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It's just a game, KIP -- don't panic.
It isn't a game that I want to play and don't worry I won't panic. I just want an honest answer to an honest point that I raised as opposed to irrelevant garbage. Is that really too much to ask for from you?

I see these sort of insane comparisons being made all the time and I don't get how people can make these comparisons unless the thing they're comparing the evolution of biological organisms to has DNA and can reproduce.
 
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Like I said, tell that to those who shoved the gray scale in my face when I was talking the fossil record.

Your lament needs a tune-up, KIP.

You ignore virtually everything I bring up, and you're not getting any sympathy from me; but only because I think you're doing this on purpose -- as is Gracchus.
Of course I'm ignoring what you're posting you're posting pointless irrelevant pictures of fish instead of actually responding to my point.

What exactly am I doing on purpose? Seeing a logical flaw in a comparison? :confused:
 
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I couldn't care less.

We aren't talking about DNA, we're talking about the fossil record.

And I'll say this a second time as well:

You (or anyone) would die of old age before you ever put the fossil record together.

A few years back, I asked if the fossil record was digital or analog, and got what I thought was an honest answer: analog.

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You said a mouthful, AV. However much evidence you are presented with your answer will always be: "I couldn't care less".

The fossil record is fine, by the way. You just don't like it because it makes your beliefs look silly. Not hard to do, admittedly, but having it continually rammed down your throat by the evidence that you are an idiot must grate a bit.

Never mind. Somehow you have persuaded yourself that it is better to take unchallenged the word of your ancestors a couple of thousand years ago over the evidence of your own senses, so you're asking for it really. But as you so eloquently reply to any amount of rational argument, evidence and logical thinking:

I couldn't care less.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is real, total, blind belief. Well done. You're the genuine article.
 
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I see these sort of insane comparisons being made all the time and I don't get how people can make these comparisons unless the thing they're comparing the evolution of biological organisms to has DNA and can reproduce.
Okay -- if it's a fan that is bothering you so much, let's skip the fan.

Let's use a propeller instead.

If a propeller turned as many times per second as you guys have transitional fossils, then it would never be able to accelerate an aircraft carrier to standard speed.

How's that?
 
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Not hard to do, admittedly, but having it continually rammed down your throat by the evidence that you are an idiot must grate a bit.
I was born ignorant, and I'll die ignorant.

If you want to 'grate a bit' on me, call me a Homo sapiens.
 
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Okay -- if it's a fan that is bothering you so much, let's skip the fan.

Let's use a propeller instead.

If a propeller turned as many times per second as you guys have transitional fossils, then it would never be able to accelerate an aircraft carrier to standard speed.

How's that?
Totally irrelevant considering I was not talking about transitional fossils I was talking about the validity of comparing a fan becoming a formula1 car to the evolution of a biological organism. You've been messing around and not responding in a respectable honest manner to my perfectly honest point for so long that you've actually forgotten what I was even talking about.
 
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You've probably answered this before, but just to satisfy my curiosity, if you are not a member of the species homo sapiens, AV, what are you?
As he has so often stated before, he considers himself to be an "Ignorant creationist",
while it is common knowledge that all creationists are "Ignorant" I think AV1611VET would like everyone to think of him as the "Most ignorant creationist".
 
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It isn't a game that I want to play and don't worry I won't panic. I just want an honest answer to an honest point that I raised as opposed to irrelevant garbage. Is that really too much to ask for from you?
You can't see it, but he is honest to his creationist bubble. Everything outside the bubble has to be irrelevant garbage.:bow:
 
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