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A fan is to a Formula One racing car what microevolution is to macroevolution.

In other words, a fan will never power a Formula One racing car, and microevolution will never lead to macroevolution.

There's nothing I despise more in these debates than when creationists totally mess up their analogies. The one you've presented above is an utterly wrong and illogical analogy.

It's about as sensible as saying that my camera is to my torch what I am to my car. Or alternatively it's like saying that "my mug of water will never turn into a giraffe", and so by comparison "Targ may reach the age of 30 but it will be physically impossible for him to one day reach the age of 57".
 
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Like I said you therefore clearly believe that a fan has DNA and reproduces. Please provide the study that demonstrates this.
Will a picture do?

FantailGoldfishWFG_Cn0890.jpg


Do you know what this is?

(Note to lurkers: I might as well play his game and have fun with this.)
 
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There's nothing I despise more in these debates than when creationists totally mess up their analogies. The one you've presented above is an utterly wrong and illogical analogy.

It's about as sensible as saying that my camera is to my torch what I am to my car. Or alternatively it's like saying that "my mug of water will never turn into a giraffe", and so by comparison "Targ may reach the age of 30 but it will be physically impossible for him to one day reach the age of 57".

Responding to him is only slightly less a waste of your time than the counting threads he's used to build up his post count to a bazillion or whatever it is at this point. You could also bang your head against your keyboard.
 
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There's nothing I despise more in these debates than when creationists totally mess up their analogies.
Good -- then I'll use the analogy you guys always shove in my face when I make the excellent point that evolution is god-of-the gaps philosophy; and we'll see if you change your tune.

At what point does this gray turn white?
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Responding to him is only slightly less a waste of your time than the counting threads he's used to build up his post count to a bazillion or whatever it is at this point. You could also bang your head against your keyboard.
I see you use up some of your 'valuable time' as well, telling others they're wasting their time with me.

How inflated is your post count due to repetitively telling others they're wasting their time?

And for the record -- do you get tired of them ignoring you?
 
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I see you use up some of your 'valuable time' as well, telling others they're wasting their time with me.

How inflated is your post count due to repetitively telling others they're wasting their time?

And for the record -- do you get tired of them ignoring you?

Let's see AV, you've been a member for how long? About 4 years? Is that correct? Well, by my calculations, let's see,

4years * 365 days/year * 24 hours/day = 35,000 hours (roughly)

so from that,

1,500,000 posts / 35,000 hours = 43 posts /hour (roughly)

Did I miss something here? You've been posting 43 posts / hour for the past 4 years? There is a word that comes to mind. What is the word I'm thinking? Geez, it's there in my mind somewhere ...
 
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Did I miss something here? You've been posting 43 posts / hour for the past 4 years?
Frankly, I'm getting tired of being reminded how little I post here.

I'll agree that 43 per hour is pretty sad.

If I really apply myself, and with a good wind at my back, I can make something like 1600 - 1750 posts in an hour.

I'll try harder -- that's all I can do.
 
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Good -- then I'll use the analogy you guys always shove in my face when I make the excellent point that evolution is god-of-the gaps philosophy; and we'll see if you change your tune.

At what point does this gray turn white?
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When it changes from Hex #D3D3D3 to Hex #D3D3D4 (from there on to #FFFFFF which is "True White")
 
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When it changes from Hex #D3D3D3 to Hex #D3D3D4 (from there on to #FFFFFF which is "True White")
Cool!

You just broke the arm of one of their favorite rebuttals to one of my favorite points.

May I put you on my Friend's List?
 
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Will a picture do?

FantailGoldfishWFG_Cn0890.jpg


Do you know what this is?

(Note to lurkers: I might as well play his game and have fun with this.)

I know what it isn't: it isn't relevant to your crazy "fans have DNA" theory.

I'm still waiting for evidence of fan or formula1 car DNA and information regarding their method of reproduction. Please provide what I have asked for... and not irrelevant pictures. Either provide fan DNA and reproductive mechanism information or retract your idiotic comparison and shutup.
 
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Good -- then I'll use the analogy you guys always shove in my face when I make the excellent point that evolution is god-of-the gaps philosophy; and we'll see if you change your tune.

At what point does this gray turn white?
images

In a thread about evolution, I think you'd be better asking when the Black turns White. After all, evolution claims that we can start with one species (black) and end up with a completely different species (white).

Now, as we go down the image from the top, it's like each row of pixels is the child of the row above it. We can clearly see microevolution taking place, as each row is slightly lighter than the row above it.

But [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! Lots of microevolutions don't equal a macroevolution (which would be represented by the pixels eventually becoming white)! That means that no matter how pale the pixels get, they could never become what we would call white! And yet, there appears to be white pixels at the bottom row of the image! This clearly means that there are no white pixels, and what we think is white pixels is clearly an optical illusion!

Thus, by analogy with evolution, I have proven that there is no such thing as white.

(Or perhaps yuou'll realise that evolution can turn Species A into Species B over many generations in the same way. There is no single generation where it stops being Species A and suddenly turns into Species B, in the same way that there is no row of pixels where it stops being black and becomes white. Rather, each generation of animals is slightly less like Species A and slightly more like Species B, just as each row of pixels is slightly less black and slightly more white. Thanks for such a neat demonstration of how evolution actually works, AV! Didn't think you had it in you!)
 
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I know what it isn't: it isn't relevant to your crazy "fans have DNA" theory.

I'm still waiting for evidence of fan or formula1 car DNA and information regarding their method of reproduction. Please provide what I have asked for... and not irrelevant pictures. Either provide fan DNA and reproductive mechanism information or retract your idiotic comparison and shutup.
What do you think that picture was, KIP?

It is a picture of a fantail goldfish.

No fan DNA = no fantail.
 
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What do you think that picture was, KIP?

It is a picture of a fantail goldfish.

No fan DNA = no fantail.

Now that is one for FSTDT.

Seriously though either show me fan/formula1 car DNA or GTFO with your idiotically erroneous comparisons.

Also silly plays on words aside you know what Greg1234 meant by fan stop being purposefully dishonest.
 
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In a thread about evolution, I think you'd be better asking when the Black turns White. After all, evolution claims that we can start with one species (black) and end up with a completely different species (white).

Now, as we go down the image from the top, it's like each row of pixels is the child of the row above it. We can clearly see microevolution taking place, as each row is slightly lighter than the row above it.

But [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! Lots of microevolutions don't equal a macroevolution (which would be represented by the pixels eventually becoming white)! That means that no matter how pale the pixels get, they could never become what we would call white! And yet, there appears to be white pixels at the bottom row of the image! This clearly means that there are no white pixels, and what we think is white pixels is clearly an optical illusion!

Thus, by analogy with evolution, I have proven that there is no such thing as white.

(Or perhaps yuou'll realise that evolution can turn Species A into Species B over many generations in the same way. There is no single generation where it stops being Species A and suddenly turns into Species B, in the same way that there is no row of pixels where it stops being black and becomes white. Rather, each generation of animals is slightly less like Species A and slightly more like Species B, just as each row of pixels is slightly less black and slightly more white. Thanks for such a neat demonstration of how evolution actually works, AV! Didn't think you had it in you!)
And thank you for demonstrating that evolution is god-of-the-gaps.
 
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Cool!

You just broke the arm of one of their favorite rebuttals to one of my favorite points.

May I put you on my Friend's List?


If you wish. Just be aware it is a trick answer. It only works because we are chatting in HTML which only has 256 shades between gray and white. All of which are defined as a particular shade. In real life it remains a valid point. :wave:
 
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I'm still waiting for evidence of fan or formula1 car DNA...
Sure:
The F1 defined the McLaren road car DNA: low weight, low polar moment of inertia, clever packaging, superb quality and innovative design, resulting in an outstanding driving experience.
SOURCE
 
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you knbow what is funny about the pixel black to white analogy?

They are still pixels lol

A hairless canine is still a canine, and will never give birth to a non canine

a black woman and white woman are both homosapiens-sapiens, and will give birth to such
 
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Responding to him is only slightly less a waste of your time than the counting threads he's used to build up his post count to a bazillion or whatever it is at this point. You could also bang your head against your keyboard.

Tick tock.
 
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