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The irony is strong.
It began in the OP which couldn‘t bring itself to say “President Obama”, except indirectly.
I couldn’t have done it better myself!
 
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Indeed. You get the respect you deserve.
Overall…on a scale of one hundred, I’m giving Trump oh, let’s say a good 60% (overall). Most of this approval is the recognition that he wants to use nuclear weapons and hasn’t.

(My big “fear” is that this administration somehow makes the cacao bean species extinct.)
 
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The Attorney General is prosecuting people who post “8647”.

According to the Attorney General, the grand jury in North Carolina indicted James Comey on a LOT more than one Instagram post.
 
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According to the Attorney General, the grand jury in North Carolina indicted James Comey on a LOT more than one Instagram post.
There’s two charges in the indictment, (I thought?), posting it, and thereby “crossing state lines“ making it an aggravating factor so more penalty can be levied, [BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA]
 
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There’s two charges in the indictment, (I thought?), posting it, and thereby “crossing state lines“ making it an aggravating factor so more penalty can be levied, [BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA]
According to what I read, the full indictment by the grand jury in North Carolina has not been released. But, I suppose that you can still keep on laughing if you want to do so.
 
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Thank you for your response. However, in my opinion, both Obama and Biden were a far bigger disgrace to the office of POTUS than Trump has ever come close to being. Again, that is my opinion.
How has they disgraced the office more than Trump?
 
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Therefore, the grand jury indictment is not just about 1 Instagram post. Also, I would not be surprised if the grand jury adds additional indictments against James Comey.
Yes, it is about 1 Instagram post. Count 1 was posting the picture and Count 2 was electronically transmitting the photo. One photo. This is a frivolous, harassing action by the DOJ.
 
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It's not about the person in the office - it is about how I as a Christian treat the person in the office. I'm not telling others to do anything, just reminding myself how I loathed the man, but treated the office with respect. No one, not even Biden is wrong 100% all the time.
I think that believing in the common good, compassion, peace through diplomacy, social justice, and good stewardship of our planet requires me to speak out for these imperative values.

For many of us, government by 3 a.m. fevered, name-calling tweets is dangerously unacceptable. It is absolutely impossible for me to understand how government by 3 a.m. tweets can be acceptable to any American. I would challenge anyone to listen to (or read) the speeches of any president in the last hundred years and not realize that "one of these men is not like the others."

As a Christian, following the leadership of my Pope, Leo XIV, I think that not proclaiming the truth loudly would be sinfully callous.
 
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Thanks. I appreciate your reply
We all need to model the behavior we want to see. No matter who is in office it is best to focus on the issues rather than the person. But when it comes to sex in the oval office (which Clinton was at least ashamed of ).or obscene public language, it is difficult and perhaps impossible not to criticize the person.
 
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Therefore, the grand jury indictment is not just about 1 Instagram post.
It literally is:
COUNT ONE: On or about May 15, 2025, in the Eastern District of North Carolina, the defendant, JAMES BRIEN COMEY JR , did knowingly and willfully make a threat to take the life of, and to inflict bodily harm upon, the President of the United States, in that he publicly posted a photograph on the internet social media site Instagram which depicted seashells arranged in a pattern making out "86 47",which a reasonable recipient who is familiar with the circumstances would interpret as a serious expression of an intent to do harm to the President of the UnitedStates. In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 871(a).

COUNT TWO: On or about May 15, 2025, in the Eastern District of North Carolina, the defendant, JAMES BRIEN COMEY JR , knowingly and willfully did transmit in interstate and foreign commerce a communication that contained a threat to kill the President , Donald J. Trump , specifically, by publicly posting a photograph on the internet social media site Instagram which depicted seashells arranged in a patternmaking out "86 47 ", which a reasonable recipient who is familiar with the circumstances would interpret as a serious expression of an intent to do harm to President Trump. In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 875(c).
Both counts refer to the same Instagram post.
Also, I would not be surprised if the grand jury adds additional indictments against James Comey.
For what?
 
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Therefore, the grand jury indictment is not just about 1 Instagram post. Also, I would not be surprised if the grand jury adds additional indictments against James Comey.
If they have more alleged malfeasance conducted by Comey they should have included that in this indictment. Because in it's current form this case is going to get slapped out of court faster than Trump voter fraud claims. What defense attorneys have learned from the first Comey indictment that went no where, along with the SPLC case, is ask for the grand jury materials. Because keep in mind this is a DOJ who willingly ignores judges orders and lies to the courts to the point of telling DOJ lawyers they will just have to tell judges to just go F-off. So would misleading grand juries be beyond the pale for them? Heck it's probably do or say what you have to regardless of truth to please the party of one, and join the ranks of the Trump bidding disbarred.
 
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If they have more alleged malfeasance conducted by Comey they should have included that in this indictment. Because in it's current form this case is going to get slapped out of court faster than Trump voter fraud claims. What defense attorneys have learned from the first Comey indictment that went no where, along with the SPLC case, is ask for the grand jury materials. Because keep in mind this is a DOJ who willingly ignores judges orders and lies to the courts to the point of telling DOJ lawyers they will just have to tell judges to just go F-off. So would misleading grand juries be beyond the pale for them? Heck it's probably do or say what you have to regardless of truth to please the party of one, and join the ranks of the Trump bidding disbarred.
I'm willing to wait and see what happens in order for the process of the justice system to come to a final conclusion about James Comey. Isn't that what liberal politicians and liberal media wanted us to do whenever Donald Trump was indicted?
 
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I'm willing to wait and see what happens in order for the process of the justice system to come to a final conclusion about James Comey. Isn't that what liberal politicians and liberal media wanted us to do whenever Donald Trump was indicted?
History has a way of repeating itself.
Why this deranged syndrome of lawyers jeopardizing their bar license for the loyalty of one is just weird.
 
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Why this deranged syndrome of lawyers jeopardizing their bar license for the loyalty of one is just weird.
In my opinion, your anti-Trump biases are clouding your discernment.
 
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I think you misunderstood my post.

I’ve said. Numerous times I wish he’d just shut up at times - but that doesn’t mean I can disrespect the office. If we reduce ourselves to sophomoric name calling and mocking because we don’t like his sophomoric name calling and mocking - how are we any different.

If the reply is “well he is the President, we should expect more” - I agree with you, but that doesn’t excuse my words towards him.

The eight years of Obama tested my patience just like yours is being tested now.

I just choose to act differently.
So the purpose of the post was to highlight how we should respect Trump while also announcing how great and humble you think you are...? What a fun topic.
 
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Trump shared a video of the Obama's faces being transposed over monkeys.
He also spent years pushing a conspiracy that Obama wasn’t an American and therefore, not a legitimate president.

Not everyone has the same level of deep respect and reverence for the presidency like our friend in the OP.
 
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