Memetics

[Cabal]

What's the deal with it? I get the impression it's not highly rated, but those quickest to dismiss it that I've encountered have usually been creationists.

Given a certain kind of thought, surely some ideas will stand to survive better than others?

Memetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[juvenissun]

What's the deal with it? I get the impression it's not highly rated, but those quickest to dismiss it that I've encountered have usually been creationists.

Given a certain kind of thought, surely some ideas will stand to survive better than others?

Memetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you know something very well, then your response to a comment of a subject tend to be very quick, to the point and not bothered to explain. This is 100% sure.

If you know nothing about an issue, you still could behave the same. But that occurs only 50% in a population.

So, what does your experience say?

 

[Cabal]

If you know something very well, then your response to a comment of a subject tend to be very quick, to the point and not bothered to explain. This is 100% sure.

If you know nothing about an issue, you still could behave the same. But that occurs only 50% in a population.

Sure, but not all of that 50% are creationists (thank the Lord) and I have little reason to trust them given my experience.

So, what does your experience say?

I think there is some merit to the idea of memetics. Not necessarily in a physical sense, but in how ideas persist and spread.

 

[Chesterton]

Whether it has merit or not, it's a philosophical idea and not a scientific one, isn't it? You can't put a meme under a microscope.

 

[Cabal]

Whether it has merit or not, it's a philosophical idea and not a scientific one, isn't it? You can't put a meme under a microscope.

Yes, that's true. Perhaps that's why the concept of memetics specifically has fallen into disrepute, because this quantum of knowledge, the meme, does not appear to be evidenced (for now). I cannot think of another aspect of memetics that could be addressed scientifically - but then again, I have not yet read up on the topic.

Then again, perhaps it could be addressed by social sciences....

 

[rockaction]

It's an interesting idea. I don't think anyone parades it around as science. It's a lot of common sense, anyway. The same logic that was used by Darwin to hypothesize natural selection.

 

[Chesterton]

Yes, that's true. Perhaps that's why the concept of memetics specifically has fallen into disrepute, because this quantum of knowledge, the meme, does not appear to be evidenced (for now). I cannot think of another aspect of memetics that could be addressed scientifically - but then again, I have not yet read up on the topic.

Then again, perhaps it could be addressed by social sciences....

Mr. Dawkins believes and advocates for something which, at least for now, can't be evidenced. And he later wrote another book which condemns that very type of thing.

 

[AV1611VET]

What's the deal with it? I get the impression it's not highly rated, but those quickest to dismiss it that I've encountered have usually been creationists.

As we should.

Jesus isn't a meme.

 

[Cabal]

Mr. Dawkins believes and advocates for something which, at least for now, can't be evidenced. And he later wrote another book which condemns that very type of thing.

Was he claiming it was definitely true and insisting that we all must believe it? I think I'd prefer to see actual quotes relating to this allegation.

 

[Cabal]

As we should.

Jesus isn't a meme.

Clearly not. The cognitive dissonance inherent in some belief systems however may well be due to the sorts of ideas they contain and would contribute to their persistence.

 

[rockaction]

As we should.

Jesus isn't a meme.

Raptor Jesus is.

 

[Chesterton]

Was he claiming it was definitely true and insisting that we all must believe it? I think I'd prefer to see actual quotes relating to this allegation.

No, I don't think so, but those weren't my "allegations".

 

[Cabal]

No, I don't think so, but those weren't my "allegations".

Bad choice of word, I apologise.

I'm assuming you're referring to the memetics section in The God Delusion and the remonstration is in The Greatest Show on Earth?

 

[pgp_protector]

so are LOL cats evolving ?

 

[Cabal]

so are LOL cats evolving ?

 

[Cabal]

Raptor Jesus is.

 

[rockaction]

My favorite is the one where Raptor Jesus is holding the baby..."is that baby for sale, Jesus?" "it is now, LOL"

 

[AV1611VET]

Clearly not. The cognitive dissonance inherent in some belief systems however may well be due to the sorts of ideas they contain and would contribute to their persistence.

Any belief system that isn't correct should generate cognitive dissonance as the Spirit prompts the person for correction.

 

[Cabal]

Any belief system that isn't correct should generate cognitive dissonance as the Spirit prompts the person for correction.

Or perhaps their sense of reason might be prompting them instead

 

[AV1611VET]

Or perhaps their sense of reason might be prompting them instead

Indeed.

Man's reasoning vs the Spirit of the Lord generates cognitive dissonance.