Meditation/Seeing Through Third Eye

[a_ntv]

Christian meditation is thinking about, considering, mulling over, the word of God. If one is doing that the mind is busy focused on God's Word.

Ummm...this is only the starting point of the Christian acesis.
The first step.
If we go on praying in presence of Him, forgetting and denying yourself in order to leave room to Him, we are able to "attend" Him in a way that does not inlcude the 5 senses, nor the simply intellect/feeling
And with that every thing assume a different value, and a supernatural vision arises.

If you are going to make meditation a regular part of your Christian life, you should start learning from Christian teachers. There is enough wisdom in the Christian contemplative tradition to keep you occupied for a lifetime. At the very least you should be some reading (and I'm sure that people here can make some good recommendations); you'd be much better off finding a spiritual director--an experienced Christian teacher who can give you some guidance.

Well, a Spiritual Father is very usefull, but the christian prayer is very personal and different from people to people, and the true teacher is the Holy Spirit.
To start is enough to be in some peaceful place (like a room or an empty church), and to place your self at the presence of Him, forgetting you worries, duties, loves, and asking Him "My Lord and my God, teach me how to pray"

 

[CountDuckula]

Ok I felt the need to reply to this message. I’ve been a believer in Christ now for going on 5 years, however before that I was heavily involved in the Occult and Wicca and paranormal practices, and from my experience and knowledge in that area what you are doing is both wrong and dangerous. Now that’s not to say that the meditation is necessarily wrong but using your quote "Third Eye" is. That is used almost exclusively in psychic practices which are of course forbidden by God because they are traps and lies of Satan. So what you're doing is no different from using an Oujia Board to ask God for advice, because you are not going to get an answer from whom you think you are. So if I were you I would stay away from anything like that, it can only lead to bad things and I know that from personal experience. Your Brother in Christ,
Count Duckula

 

[Optimax]

Ummm...this is only the starting point of the Christian acesis.
The first step.
If we go on praying in presence of Him, forgetting and denying yourself in order to leave room to Him, we are able to "attend" Him in a way that does not inlcude the 5 senses, nor the simply intellect/feeling
And with that every thing assume a different value, and a supernatural vision arises.

What you are saying sounds more "spooky" instead of spiritual.

 

[david_x]

Hey, I like to meditate to. I admit I don't believe in a "third eye." Nothing wrong with sitting alone in reflection on God's word.

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Hey, I like to meditate to. I admit I don't believe in a "third eye." Nothing wrong with sitting alone in reflection on God's word.

no, the reflecting/meditating on God isn't the problem. It is when you start doing as the OP said, and start with the 3rd eye...that you run into problems.

 

[SorchaAisling]

Um, I don't understand why anyone would call the "third eye" dangerous??? It's the imagination, the place in your mind where you see. If you dream, you're seeing visions with your third eye (after all, your eyes are closed but you see!). If you're at work and thinking about going to a party or going on vacation, you're seeing that with your third eye. Anything that you can imagine, you are seeing with your third eye. How can this be demonic? Or are people just freaked out by the term?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Um, I don't understand why anyone would call the "third eye" dangerous??? It's the imagination, the place in your mind where you see. If you dream, you're seeing visions with your third eye (after all, your eyes are closed but you see!). If you're at work and thinking about going to a party or going on vacation, you're seeing that with your third eye. Anything that you can imagine, you are seeing with your third eye. How can this be demonic? Or are people just freaked out by the term?

because of what it is in the Occult. Imagination is different than the third eye. Do some research on it..you will find out why.

 

[SorchaAisling]

Perhaps you have some links or other information? I know that the occult has teachings about the third eye being a psychic center, one of the chakras, etc., but honestly it is the exact part of the body where imagination and dreams are seen (at least on my body) so it's obviously God-given even if we don't believe in chakras.

 

[kept]

Hi

This is only in response to the first post

havent read all the rest

I believe personally that anything reduced to a method and used that way can become tainted

What starts out as the Spirit in us often times we grab hold of and try to make into some routine and the Spirit is like the wind .....you hear and feel it but you cant tell where it comes from nor where it is going.....

Its good to only Seek HIM and keep your eyes on Jesus ...whether your one, two or three eyed staying focused on Him is being single eyed and let HIM lead you by the Spirit

Dont force something into a pattern imo

God bless

kept

 

[david_x]

no, the reflecting/meditating on God isn't the problem. It is when you start doing as the OP said, and start with the 3rd eye...that you run into problems.

Did you even read my post?

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Perhaps you have some links or other information? I know that the occult has teachings about the third eye being a psychic center, one of the chakras, etc., but honestly it is the exact part of the body where imagination and dreams are seen (at least on my body) so it's obviously God-given even if we don't believe in chakras.

The Word of God says not to partake in ANY kind of witch craft. SO if you are practicing one of thier methods...it is AGAINST Scripture.

 

[Chickapee]

Hi

This is only in response to the first post

havent read all the rest

I believe personally that anything reduced to a method and used that way can become tainted

What starts out as the Spirit in us often times we grab hold of and try to make into some routine and the Spirit is like the wind .....you hear and feel it but you cant tell where it comes from nor where it is going.....

Its good to only Seek HIM and keep your eyes on Jesus ...whether your one, two or three eyed staying focused on Him is being single eyed and let HIM lead you by the Spirit

Dont force something into a pattern imo

God bless

kept

amen , to you and Fire , good Words on meditating on the Lord ..
the'' lifted up '' of the eyes and seeing Jesus love this part !! good stuff .. Mat 17:8And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only...


peace C ...

 

[Fireinfolding]

Kept ROFL!!! Keep every eye ya got on "Him" (Im laughing so hard)

Peace

Fireinfolding

 

[kept]

hehe

well heck might as well cover all the bases haha

just point em all on HIM

yeah your just laughing at my fruit lol admit it!

kept

 

[Fireinfolding]

I think your fruit hat is KOOL!!

I'll call ya a "cutie, fruity, ba-tootie" (with two eyes ofcourse) LOL

I know ya by your FRUIT ROFL!!

Peace

Fireinfolding

 

[ThyGrudge]

thanks for all the feedback, i've read all of your posts

i've been researching it more as well and i found something on wikipedia but it wont let me paste it because i dont have 15 posts

but if your intrested in checking it out go to wikipedia, type in third eye and look for...
Physical basis: the pineal gland?

imo its worth the read...
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Godbless
thanks again for the feedback

 

[kept]

hehe

I like that name

makes me feel all warm inside

thygrudge

keep that pineal gland on HIM

kept

 

[GreenMunchkin]

but if your intrested in checking it out go to wikipedia, type in third eye and look for...
Physical basis: the pineal gland?

But, dude, Rick Strassman has posited it's related to the pineal gland. His bread and butter is hallucinogenic drugs, metaphysics and near death experiences.

This is what's worrying me about your being deceived. This is what Wikipedia first says:

The third eye is a metaphysical and esoteric concept referring in part to the ajna (brow) chakra in certain eastern and western spiritual traditions. In New Age spirituality, the third eye may alternately symbolize a state of enlightenment or the evocation of mental images having deeply-personal spiritual or psychological significance. The third eye is often associated with visions, clairvoyance, precognition, and out-of-body experiences and people who have allegedly developed the capacity to use their third eyes are sometimes known as seers.

But because some guy into metaphysics has suggested - without even a shred of proof - that it's got a biological basis, you think that negates its being demonic...

Clairvoyance, new ageism, out of body experiences - all very much of the devil. Look, dude, here's the thing: no-one here can tell you what to do, and I don't think anyone would try to, but you kinda need to decide whether you're a follower of Christ or not, because in matters such as this, there's really no middle ground. If you're a Christian and worship the Lord, it's not possible to be involved in the occult - and the third eye is the occult. Even if you choose to persist, it doesn't make you a bad person, but it will build a barrier between you and God, because He is perfect, and can't abide sin, or the worshipping of false idols.

God bless, dude Am praying God speaks to you about all of this. xxx

 

[sunlover1]

I've recently started the practice of prayer through meditation and seeing through my third eye. It really seems to give me a natural high and make me feel happy. Like when I meditate I'll sometimes pray while I'm meditating. It really seems to help center me and make me really reach deep and believe in what I'm praying about. Although I do this for more reasons than just prayer.

I truly believe that it is a God-given ability to see through your third eye. Because when I do it, it really helps me write music. And seriously it centers me. I've been less angry and bitter since I've started doing it.

But when I do these things my family and friends say its blasphemous because religions like Shamanism, Buddhism, and Taoism also practice using your third eye. But like I said it really does help me.

So my question is... Should I ignore the people accusing me of practicing witchcraft? Or, is what I'm doing perfectly fine?

Welcome!

Many things can seem to help us but that doesnt mean they actually do.
Taking some sort of mind altering drug might make you seem more 'centered' but it's an illusion.
Calm doesn't always equal peace.

If I were you, I'd certainly listen to the ones who love you and are advising you.
They love you?
Why would they want to harm you?

God love ya?
He want to harm ya?

Devil?
He'd love nothing more than to trick you with some little game or another.
Always illusion with him.
Just harmless he'll say.
Ahh shoot, what's the worry?

All the while circling like a shark waiting for the right moment to cash in on all of the times you obeyed him (unknowingly)
If you obey him, he thinks he's your master.
He don't just pinch you either. His goal is to kill, steal and destroy. It just always starts out innocent looking.
He's nothing to be messing with, playing around with.
Danger keep out

We give him a legal right to hurt us.
We reap what we sow and he uses that against us.

If you have doubts, why mess with it?
Is it that important to you?
IOW, what do you want?
Then you need to find out if it's pleasing to God.

IMO
sunlover

 

[Fireinfolding]

We know Paul had no "visions" or "out of body experiences dont we?

ROFL Okay I couldnt resist "that one".

I KNOW that no one was caught up to THIRD "EYE" (I mean "HEAVEN" ) and whether "in the body" or "out of the body" he could not tell (but what "an experience" huh? lol)

When Paul prayed that THE EYES of our heart be "enlightened" he didnt mention "how many" there was "in there" LOL). If someone said "two" would that make us feel better? LOL

Okay okay, I need to laugh sometimes you know.

It sorta gets ridiculous as even those who speak of "third eye" dont see it nor do they explain it but in terms that sometimes have "scriptural applications". I say this only because when others use those terms its just "words" to freak you out. Once thats planted in ya the word "meditate" has a negative punch though scripture speaks of it, so does the word "enlightenment" as Paul prayed the eyes of our heart be so. Dont let others "put stuff on you". Its just like that maze thread, all the sudden "mazes" have a boogieman on them because someone with a defiled conscience sees them that way. Simply put your walking in the truth or we are not whether we go to church or whether we are not. Whether we have two eyes, a single eye, or try to spiritualize a "third eye" here LOL

If the Lord would have said, I have SEVEN EYES, would not have others thought him strange back then? They are "symbolic" and spoken of in revelation but of others who say this is only for shock value. They dont REALLY see an EYE they make reference to the eye believing it holds spiritual value in terms of clarity or during relaxation excercises and such like things. If you saw gradmom closing her eyes and taking in deep breaths to relax is she worshipping satan doing that? I dont get that mentality but I do understand some are completely engrossed into the "depths of Satan" as they speak. I dont "go there".


Clairvoyance (Thin line in the definition)

Definition (First one is weird)

1....... The Supernatural power of seeing objects or actions removed in space or time from natural veiwing.....

One COULD actually use these then couldnt they?

Col 2:5 For though I be absent ~in the flesh~ YET I am with you ~in the spirit~ joying and beholding ~your order~ and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Or

2Cr 12:22 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, *I cannot tell*; or whether out of the body, *I cannot tell*: God knoweth such a one caught up to the third heaven. 2Cr 12:5 Of such ~a one~ I will glory:

Com on today wouldn't others call that one a NEW AGER just by "that" experience alone. Paul would actually GLORY in that ONE strangely enough)



2....Perception........(is perception bad?)

Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees (its like walking in a room and perceiving something "baptists" and catholic" or those who perceived the grace of God in Paul, both inward or outward here)

3....Perception of a truth.......... (Is that evil?)

Acts 10:34 Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:1Titus 2:4.... to come unto the knowledge of the Truth.


4....A fact or a truth perceived "in this way"......

Various examples (of a truth perceived "in this way??)

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory 1Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto... 1Cr 3:1 brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual.... Col 1:9and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; Heb 10:1 the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of things Roman 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Is that evil?

5....Keen quick insight .......a GOOD thing its opposite is a weakness not strengthrened yet... Heb 5:11we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 1Cr 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world



6....*Any* object *of truth* ~so dicerned~.......

Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses excercised to discern both good and evil.

Philosophy ..... (no fit)

Spritual with Spiritual" does NOT fit (after particular levels of) with the three branches of natural philosophy, moral philosophy, metaphysical philosophy, science philosophy ....

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ..

Last of all

7....Pure untaught, *noninferential* knowledge....

I looked up "noninferential" anyone know what that even means? I cant find it anywhere.

So Im stuck with pure untaught ("not sure" of noninferential") "knowledge".

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure ...Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ....

See how these which can be seen as "bad words" actually be very scriptural? How one might say the word "perceive" and you might see 50 running like they just saw "the boogieman" because "that word" becomes "unclean" (in regards to the faith) through other words (having a negative connotation on them) that define the "bad word" (that has one).

Dang, did I explain myself right? I truly lack on these sorts of words ROFL!!

Peace

Fireinfolding