Mayor Pete or Community Organizer Obama - you be the judge.

[KCfromNC]

Facts are so inconvenient at times, ain’t they?

Finding out Obama is no better than the President, while painful to his loyal defenders, is just reality.

Yeah, I mean Obama has multiple degrees that we don't have the transcripts for, so he must be an even bigger loser than the current president who barely has one.

 

[KCfromNC]

yes he does

and the President ran 350 different corporations globally for 30 plus years before he became President and Obama never started a business.

Yeah, Obama didn't even bankrupt one Atlantic City casino. Sad! Low Energy! Covfefe.

 

[TLK Valentine]

yes he does

and the President ran 350 different corporations globally for 30 plus years before he became President and Obama never started a business.

we can find strengths and weaknesses on both, can’t we?

Indeed we can -- but this doesn't support your assertion that Obama was "no better."

Obama was a Magna cum Laude graduate; Donald was not. For those measuring by intelligence, they might consider Obama "better."

Obama has never been hauled into court to answer for illegal business practices; Donald has. As President, Obama had never been impeached; Donald has. As president, Obama never had a Senator from his own political party vote to remove him from office; Donald has. For those measuring by legal behavior, they might consider Obama "better."

Obama has never (to anyone's knowledge) violated his marriage vows; Donald has (on multiple occasions). Obama has never been so much as accused of sexual harassment, misconduct, or assault; Donald has. For those measuring by moral/ethical behavior, they might consider Obama "better."

And they'd be absolutely correct.

 

[rambot]

yes he does

and the President ran 350 different corporations globally for 30 plus years before he became President and Obama never started a business.

we can find strengths and weaknesses on both, can’t we?

ROFL! Being a ceo does not make you a good president and I have never understood why people think those two correlate.

 

[TLK Valentine]

ROFL! Being a ceo does not make you a good president and I have never understood why people think those two correlate.

Because the influence of the prosperity gospel is strong... wealthier people must be superior, amirite?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Indeed we can -- but this doesn't support your assertion that Obama was "no better."

Obama was a Magna cum Laude graduate; Donald was not. For those measuring by intelligence, they might consider Obama "better."

Obama has never been hauled into court to answer for illegal business practices; Donald has. As President, Obama had never been impeached; Donald has. As president, Obama never had a member of his own political party vote to remove him from office; Donald has. For those measuring by legal behavior, they might consider Obama "better."

Obama has never (to anyone's knowledge) violated his marriage vows; Donald has (on multiple occasions). Obama has never been so much as accused of sexual harassment, misconduct, or assault; Donald has. For those measuring by moral/ethical behavior, they might consider Obama "better."

And they'd be absolutely correct.

Obama didn't build his political career by pushing a racist conspiracy theory against the leader of the opposing party.

Obama didn't use his charity to illegally enrich himself.

 

[hislegacy]

Obama didn't build his political career by pushing a racist conspiracy theory against the leader of the opposing party.

Obama didn't use his charity to illegally enrich himself.

Neither did the President.

But Mr. Barack Obama did weaponize the intelligence community and the IRS to go after his political opponents.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Neither did the President.

Really? You sure about that?

Because here are a bunch of his birther statements:
14 of Donald Trump's most outrageous 'birther' claims - CNNPolitics

And here's a rundown of all the illegalities committed by the Trump Foundation:
Donald J. Trump Foundation - Wikipedia

But Mr. Barack Obama did weaponize the intelligence community and the IRS to go after his political opponents.

No, he didn't, but your guy is actively purging from the executive branch those perceived to be disloyal.

 

[DaisyDay]

Because the influence of the prosperity gospel is strong... wealthier people must be superior, amirite?

Sadly, many people seem to think so.

 

[Dale]

For the record:

UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

Obama a Constitutional Law Professor?

This is a legitimate point, so thanks.

Barack Obama was a Lecturer at the Chicago Law School, a successful one, and he did teach on Constitutional matters at times. The public is fuzzy about matters such as academic rank. At a University, academic ranks are very precise. As a matter of academic rank, Obama was not a Professor of Constitutional law, although he is sometimes described that way.

The problem with calling him a "community organizer" or a "community activist" is that it makes it sound like Obama is an overgrown kid who can't hold a job. Or couldn't, before he was elected to the Senate. Where I live, local rightists have picked up the phrase "community activist" and have no idea that Obama had a respectable career before entering politics.

Obama was living in a half-million dollar house. He isn't a ne'er do well with funny ideas who somehow got elected to national office.

 

[Dale]

yes he does

and the President ran 350 different corporations globally for 30 plus years before he became President and Obama never started a business.

we can find strengths and weaknesses on both, can’t we?

The notion that Donald Trump is a successful CEO is very misleading. People are right to point out that he has had multiple bankrupt casinos.

Years ago, Sixty Minutes did a story about Donald Trump and Mirv Griffin fighting for turf in Atlantic City. They were both described as billionaires, it was called a battle of the billionaires. I have a biography of Donald Trump, written before he was President. It says that neither Trump nor Griffin were billionaires at the time. Their actual wealth is estimated at about $250 million apiece. The media simply exaggerates to make it look like a bigger story. The book also says that in recent years, Trump's biggest source of income is selling his name. Oddly enough, there are foreign companies that will pay one or two million dollars to put Trump's name on a hotel, for instance. I don't get it.

I have seen an article that says that Donald Trump's wealth at the time he was elected President, as a percentage of the national economy is only half what his father was worth.

 

[Sparagmos]

There's also more than a little derision apparent in the focus on the job of Community Organizer, which is just a type of social worker. Perhaps if red communities had more folks doing that sort of work, they wouldn't be so miserable.

MLK was a community organizer. I’m an organizer. I find it pretty funny when ppl on the right use it as a derogatory term.

 

[NxNW]

yes he does

the President ran 350 different corporations globally for 30 plus years

And he lost more money than anyone in the country.

 

[hislegacy]

And he lost more money than anyone in the country.

Mark Zuckerberg just lost nearly $16 billion in one day

Other who lost more

George Soros
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

https://www.smh.com.au/money/invest...-he-just-lost-19-billion-20160915-grgxen.html

The President doesn’t come close

 

[TLK Valentine]

MLK was a community organizer. I’m an organizer. I find it pretty funny when ppl on the right use it as a derogatory term.

Well, the term combines two things that some folks on the Right tend to disdain: the community, and the idea of them getting organized.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The President doesn’t come close

True that -- Successful businessmen like Zuckerberg or Bezos can lose more money without blinking than Donald will ever see in his lifetime.

He doesn't come close... no wonder he hates them so much.

 

[hislegacy]

True that -- Successful businessmen like Zuckerberg or Bezos can lose more money without blinking than Donald will ever see in his lifetime.

He doesn't come close... no wonder he hates them so much.

Why does Bernie hate them so much that he wants to see them loose all they worked for?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Why does Bernie hate them so much that he wants to see them loose all they worked for?

Why do you believe and repeat something false?

 

[hislegacy]

Why do you believe and repeat something false?

Bernie has said on national tv there should be no billionaires. That isn’t exactly a love statement.

Bernie Sanders wants to get rid of billionaires. All of them. - CNNPolitics

You were saying?

 

[Dale]

Mark Zuckerberg just lost nearly $16 billion in one day

Other who lost more

George Soros
Jeff Bezos
Warren Buffet

https://www.smh.com.au/money/invest...-he-just-lost-19-billion-20160915-grgxen.html

The President doesn’t come close

For a wealthy person to lose money on paper when the stock market is down is not the same thing as a wealthy person with multiple investments falling behind an expanding national economy.