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Mayby a way to disprove god :P

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Hi. I just thought out this one, please give me some replys ;) If science ever make a robot that is exactly like the human brain, or if science could make a complete replica of the human brain and by that calculate the choices each human makes by knowing how it workes. Wouldn't this prove that there is nothing devine about the human mind and that it is just a fancy machine? And if it is so: the meaning of "free will" would disapear, the choices we make is just a result of a series of calculations. And if God made us like complicated machines, then he cant blame us for the choices we make. It would just prove that the choices we make is just results of how our minds work on our envirement, the invirement that God made for us. Any disagree?

Just as robots would be made by a robot maker, so humans would be made, analogously, by a human maker. If you are arguing that our minds are no more than machines, then you must concede that machines still have to have been made by something/someone. If not God, then who?
 
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Is it this man.... or this man.... or this man ..... under the leadership of this man....
 
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Any rational person wouldn't believe in him.
You're serious? Have you ever looked at a list of people who profess Christianity? Or belief in any higher being? It is no different than a random sampling of society. If you trust people with PhD's and MD's to be rational, then there is your answer. Just because you choose to continue exploring the concept doesn't mean others shoudln't be free to settle on a choice.
 
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Go buy (or borrow) Richard Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion", and look up his refutation of what he calls "The Argument from Respected Scientists".

Just because some people with PhDs and MDs choose to believe in God doesn't make it true or rational: there are plenty of people with those qualifications who don't believe in God, or believe in a non-Christian God.
 
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What if we were to counter it with an observation that many people who spend their time trying to refute a higher being publicly are driven by emotions when doing so? Just a what if, not an accusation.

I would say that that has little relevance to the truth.

Many religious people who spend their time trying to prove a higher being publically are also emotionally motivated. This doesn't seem to hinder your regard for them.
 
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Hi. I just thought out this one, please give me some replys ;) If science ever make a robot that is exactly like the human brain, or if science could make a complete replica of the human brain and by that calculate the choices each human makes by knowing how it workes. Wouldn't this prove that there is nothing devine about the human mind and that it is just a fancy machine? And if it is so: the meaning of "free will" would disapear, the choices we make is just a result of a series of calculations. And if God made us like complicated machines, then he cant blame us for the choices we make. It would just prove that the choices we make is just results of how our minds work on our envirement, the invirement that God made for us. Any disagree?
Science cannot make the consciousness. Im an athiest, and the consciousness is the thing that seperates us from everything. We are our consciousness.
 
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Go buy (or borrow) Richard Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion", and look up his refutation of what he calls "The Argument from Respected Scientists".

Just because some people with PhDs and MDs choose to believe in God doesn't make it true or rational: there are plenty of people with those qualifications who don't believe in God, or believe in a non-Christian God.

I would say that belief in God is rational, but not the believe in the Christian God. But there are many great minds who have come to the conclusion that a Supreme Being exists through the use of reason alone, people like Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, etc.

The fact that we can't see something with our own senses does not mean that we cannot come to the rational conclusion that it exists. For example, I cannot see, hear, touch, or feel radio waves, but I will still tell you that I believe they exist, and I have very good reasons for believing they exist.
 
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Hello Everyone,

I think that humans are going to destroy the planet, by screwing up the environment with pollution. Probably, we will have to build robots with artifical intelligence, to try and solve problems for us. Maybe we could build robots that wouldn't mind flying into space and diverting an asteroid from hitting our planet, or walking into nuclear power plants where there was an accident and fix the problem?

I think we need robots in this day and age, and probably could use a few.

Sincerely,

Thomas

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