May I have some input please?

[RhetorTheo]

Explain to me please... Why does the Baptist Church "have" to be linked with Protestant, and yet the Orthodox... actually left under protest and get to stay free of the Protestant label. Do you just like them better?

Catholics say the Orthodox left (or were kicked out). The Orthodox say the same about the Catholics. I've read some say that "the Orthodox were the first Protestants," but that's a Catholic view.

I agree with you that any church that starts on its own, without breaking off from the Catholic Church or one of its derivatives, is not a Protestant in the traditional sense. The willingness on this board to give the Orthodox a separate category, but not Baptists, is probably to reinforce the importance (in our view) of being an/the original Church, traced back to the 1st century.

 

[RhetorTheo]

I won't comment on whether OBOB likes Orthodox more than Baptists.

 

[Paul S]

Explain to me please... Why does the Baptist Church "have" to be linked with Protestant, and yet the Orthodox... actually left under protest and get to stay free of the Protestant label. Do you just like them better?

I think one big difference is that the Orthodox broke off 500 years before "Protestantism" began, which started with the teachings of Luther, Calvin, and their contemporaries.

Also, the Orthodox do maintain apostolic succession, as they believe in Tradition and the liturgy as sacrifice. The Anglicans lost apostolic succession when they changed the ordination ritual, so they'd fall into the Protestant category.

The Orthodox (and I'm sure someone will correct me on this if I'm wrong, as I'm not really familiar with Orthodox beliefs) mostly believe the same things Catholics do, except for the authority of the Pope and the Filioque. They tend to leave things such as transubstantion and the Marian doctrines more undefined, but they do believe in them. Most Protestants don't, at least not at the denominational level.

 

[Debi1967]

How did this turn into this conversation to begin with?

An Orthodox Sistern comes in and posts a sisterlink and asks a question for us to help with input.... and it turns into a debate as to whether the Orthodox were the Original Protestants................................

Even according to the Church they are not protestants they are in schism and that is different.... please do some homework people....

 

[Jamme]

Prot·es·tant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prt-stnt)
n.
1)A member of a Western Christian church whose faith and practice are founded on the principles of the Reformation, especially in the acceptance of the Bible as the sole source of revelation, in justification by faith alone, and in the universal priesthood of all the believers.
2)A member of a Western Christian church adhering to the theologies of Luther, Calvin, or Zwingli.
3)One of the German princes and cities that supported the doctrines of Luther and protested against the decision of the second Diet of Speyer (1529) to enforce the Edict of Worms (1521) and deny toleration to Lutherans.
4)protestant (also pr-tstnt) One who makes a declaration or avowal.

adj.
Of or relating to Protestants or Protestantism.

 

[Dust and Ashes]

You guys are not making a whole lot of sense to me.

Explain to me please... Why does the Baptist Church "have" to be linked with Protestant, and yet the Orthodox... actually left under protest and get to stay free of the Protestant label. Do you just like them better?

Why can't we have Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and Baptist?

Because, all opinions and debates aside, when you look at the Catholic/Orthodox issue objectively, there is a question of who left who. With Protestants, it's clear who left who and the majority of Protestants will admit it. Of course, I'm sure there are some really far out on the fringe who would claim that the Catholic Church left the Protestant faith in the 16th century.

NOTE: I am not debating who left who. I'm simply stating that both Catholic and Orthodox claim the other left so there is a question there. There is no such question with Protestants.