Maximum human lifespan.

[bhsmte]

So what is the maximum human lifespan? Not the technical one, but the practical one. The age that is the maximum lifespan for at least 90% of people. The lifespan for even "typical" people depends on health, but usually is now in 70s or 80s, so im not arguing there is a "one" age that typical people die from old age at, but do you think there is an age that is rare for a person to surpass?

Right now, living past 90, would be quite rare, on a percentage basis.

Three facts influence how long one lives; genetics, lifestyle and modern medicine. Since we can't do anything about genetics, advances in medicine in treating and controlling disease plays a large factor, as well as lifestyles.

 

[Loudmouth]

Right now, living past 90, would be quite rare, on a percentage basis.

Three facts influence how long one lives; genetics, lifestyle and modern medicine. Since we can't do anything about genetics, advances in medicine in treating and controlling disease plays a large factor, as well as lifestyles.

IMO, it all comes down to dodging cancer. Your genetics determines how many oncogenes you start with (e.g. BRCA1 and 2 for breast cancer). Your environment determines the rest, be it the production of new oncogenes from viral infections or exposure to mutagens. Even if you do everything right and live the healthiest lifestyle possible it is still impossible to dodge that final cancer mutation caused by a stray particle hurled at you from the Sun.

 

[bhsmte]

IMO, it all comes down to dodging cancer. Your genetics determines how many oncogenes you start with (e.g. BRCA1 and 2 for breast cancer). Your environment determines the rest, be it the production of new oncogenes from viral infections or exposure to mutagens. Even if you do everything right and live the healthiest lifestyle possible it is still impossible to dodge that final cancer mutation caused by a stray particle hurled at you from the Sun.

Correct. This is why medical advances with treating and diagnosing certain cancers early on, have increased longevity in many people that would have been doomed not very long ago.

I would expect medicine to continue to make advances with cancer, as methodically as they have for several decades.

Also, there are many people who die of other causes then cancer. Dementia related diseases, are one of the leading causes of death in elderly people.

 

[Loudmouth]

Correct. This is why medical advances with treating and diagnosing certain cancers early on, have increased longevity in many people that would have been doomed not very long ago.

I would expect medicine to continue to make advances with cancer, as methodically as they have for several decades.

My gut feeling is that personal genomics is going to be a big part of cancer treatment in the future. Tailoring treatment to the specific mutations in an oncogene may prove to be best method. They could also look at gene expression data to find surface proteins that are overexpressed in cancer cells, and then create a cancer vaccine against that protein.

Also, there are many people who die of other causes then cancer. Dementia related diseases, are one of the leading causes of death in elderly people.

That's a good point as well. ALS, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's are the big 3 and are genetically linked. You could also throw MS in there.

 

[bhsmte]

My gut feeling is that personal genomics is going to be a big part of cancer treatment in the future. Tailoring treatment to the specific mutations in an oncogene may prove to be best method.



That's a good point as well. ALS, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's are the big 3 and are genetically linked. You could also throw MS in there.

I spent several years in end of life care and a high percentage of the terminal patients had dementia related disease. If and when there is a break through from medical science in this arena, life spans would be dramatically impacted, IMO. ALS is very rare, but dementia related disease, is highly common.

 

[Loudmouth]

I spent several years in end of life care and a high percentage of the terminal patients had dementia related disease. If and when there is a break through from medical science in this arena, life spans would be dramatically impacted, IMO. ALS is very rare, but dementia related disease, is highly common.

Agreed. I have lost 2 grandparents over the last year to those diseases. It is tough seeing people stripped of their humanity. One positive is that it made me realize the importance of a living will.

 

[Sammy-San]

The full life span is 120 years and it is very rare for people to live that long.
This will be more common during the 1,000 year reign of Christ.
There are ways to prolong our life, for example:
He who hates unjust gain will prolong his days.

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/How-To-Live-Long

Then how do you explain how long this woman lived? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

 

[joshua 1 9]

Then how do you explain how long this woman lived? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

Looks to be pretty well documented. But there were some children that died and maybe they got the birth certificates mixed up.

 

[Sammy-San]

Looks to be pretty well documented. But there were some children that died and maybe they got the birth certificates mixed up.

What are you saying? Her name got mixed up with a sibling? That doesn't explain the age on the birth certificate.

 

[bhsmte]

What are you saying? Her name got mixed up with a sibling? That doesn't explain the age on the birth certificate.

It has to be a mix up, Joshua stated the limit is 120.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It has to be a mix up, Joshua stated the limit is 120.

The Bible says 120 years. So 122 would be a contradiction. But it could just be an error somewhere. Gen 6 3 "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

 

[bhsmte]

The Bible says 120 years. So 122 would be a contradiction. But it could just be an error somewhere. Gen 6 3 "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

I know, reality should never contradict scripture.

 

[Larniavc]

I don't think insurance companies concern themselves with whether or not it could have been prevented.

Their job is to pay the beneficiary.

More like wriggle out of paying the beneficiary if they possibly can, amirite?

 

[Larniavc]

There is no evidence that vitamins do any good at all and they could do more harm then good.

If you don't get enough vitamin C and D you could get Scurvy and Rickets.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I know, reality should never contradict scripture.

If all of the Bible is not true then how are we going to determine what is and what is not true? Even if you believe that there is no error, there are a lot of different interpretations so the question is who has the right interpretation? I tend to believe the Bible is inerrant. We do not need a teacher, we are to be lead by God. He will be our teacher and guide us into all truth.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you don't get enough vitamin C and D you could get Scurvy and Rickets.

I was talking about taking vitamins supplements. Chances are they will do more harm then good.

 

[bhsmte]

If all of the Bible is not true then how are we going to determine what is and what is not true? Even if you believe that there is no error, there are a lot of different interpretations so the question is who has the right interpretation? I tend to believe the Bible is inerrant. We do not need a teacher, we are to be lead by God. He will be our teacher and guide us into all truth.

I know that is what you believe.

 

[bhsmte]

I was talking about taking vitamins supplements. Chances are they will do more harm then good.

You would have to take a lot of vitamin supplements for them to do harm. Vitamins, A,D,K and E are the ones that can be harmful in high doses, because they store in your adipose tissue.

But, you have to take a whole bunch to do harm. On the other hand, anyone taking more then a general multi vitamin, is likely wasting their time, unless they have a medical condition, calling for higher doses.

 

[Larniavc]

I was talking about taking vitamins supplements. Chances are they will do more harm then good.

Yeah, I can agree with that. As long as you get a decent diet vitamin supplements are a con.

 

[029b10]

What are you saying? Her name got mixed up with a sibling? That doesn't explain the age on the birth certificate.

It is written that the days of man life in the flesh on this earth shall be 120 years back in Genesis.

How does the 120 year principle explain the claim of the lady who lived to the age of 122 years old that was verified by officials.

1. Have clerical errors ever occurred in the history of man?
2. France was almost completely destroyed in the aftermath of WWII so maybe records used were replacement records that were fill out incorrect years ago.

Plus by two witnesses shall a matter be established: so only one case in the hundreds of millions is still somewhat curious in itself.