With all the divorce and turn over in relationships- does anyone think that maybe humans shouldn't mate for life? Perhaps we are to mate for some seasons and move on to another partner? It certianly might help diversify the gene pool...
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Mating for Life?
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MoonlessNight
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Foxes have ben known to mate for life (though it's not universal.) There are better examples, but when things have to deal with foxes, I have an obligation to bring it up.Kelly said:
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Annabel Lee
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Humans probably shouldn't mate for life. I think marriages would work out better if we had separate housing....get together once or twice a week and have dinner occasionally. 
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The Celts had a tradition called the "Greenwood Marriage". The couple would marry under contract for a year and a day. All Greenwood Marriages began on Beltaine. My wife and I started this way.
If the couple decided not to renew the marrige they simply walked away with property being divided by a set of rules set out in Brehon Law. If they decided to stay together they would continue in a new, permanent marriage contract.
Seems like a very sensible arrangement to me. Only possible in a society based on an idea where a woman was not considered property.
If the couple decided not to renew the marrige they simply walked away with property being divided by a set of rules set out in Brehon Law. If they decided to stay together they would continue in a new, permanent marriage contract.
Seems like a very sensible arrangement to me. Only possible in a society based on an idea where a woman was not considered property.
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Spoken by someone who does not have children, I'm sure.Annabel Lee said:Humans probably shouldn't mate for life. I think marriages would work out better if we had separate housing....get together once or twice a week and have dinner occasionally.
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I don't know about everyone else, but if (we) get married it's going to be for life.
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Annabel Lee
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Crazy Liz said:Spoken by someone who does not have children, I'm sure.
No, I have three children.
Not sure how it happened!
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people shouldn't be together with the intention to "mate for life" that is soooo... primative. mating is not the cornerstone of human relations. we are more advanced than the ape.
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Primative. It is primative to dedicate your life to another person?foolsparade said:
In that case, pass the stone knives and bearskins because if a lifetime marriage is primative then count me in.
What people tend to forget here is all the success stories. Yes, the divorce rate is terrible but there are plenty of people who have been married and stayed that way for the rest of their lives. My grandparents were married 47 years until my grandfather passed away. My parents have been married 33 years and still going strong.
This can be, and has been, done.
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Yes Havoc, that is the current situation with myself and my mate. I think it's much healthier to the relationship and removes a mass of pressure that would otherwise strangle early bonds. (We've only been together for 2years 1month)
What I"m saying though is, even with all the 'success' stories (and some marriages don't count because they are just two people staying in bad situations because of kids or religious commitments) it seems un-natural to mate for life because humans are so complex and so easily drawn away from relationships by divergent interests. People are always growing- there should be a system that allows for that- especially if they are growing in different directions rather than together.
Of course, eventually they might grow back together and they could then mate again until they grow apart again. Cyclic sort of. More natural I think - at least from what I've seen and experianced in my life.
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Kelly
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well, at least you've given yourself an out.
Marriage should not be undertaken if the bond is not meant to be for life. It's not for convenience, something to be tossed aside when you get bored. Sure problems arise and sacrifices may be made, but all can be worked through.
Marriage should not be undertaken if the bond is not meant to be for life. It's not for convenience, something to be tossed aside when you get bored. Sure problems arise and sacrifices may be made, but all can be worked through.
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Marriage is a human idea - not really a natrual one in my opinion- hence the discussion of the issue.
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I don't believe in sin so... there's that.
Some animals mate for life (as has been pointed out) but they generally only come together for the mating season and then just after or sometimes before the cubs are born they usually separate again for a large portion of the year.
I just noticed in the behavior of people (primarily people in their mating prime-meaning fertile and able to procreate) that they seem to lose interest after a year or two or three together. Not that they lose love, but they lose sexual interest, or they lose interest in other areas. Seems to me that perhaps that's something people should be looking at more closely.
Some animals mate for life (as has been pointed out) but they generally only come together for the mating season and then just after or sometimes before the cubs are born they usually separate again for a large portion of the year.
I just noticed in the behavior of people (primarily people in their mating prime-meaning fertile and able to procreate) that they seem to lose interest after a year or two or three together. Not that they lose love, but they lose sexual interest, or they lose interest in other areas. Seems to me that perhaps that's something people should be looking at more closely.
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you don't believe in sin?
are you perfect? im not trying to sound like a jerk, but sin (or whatever term you have for it) is human nuture.
are you perfect? im not trying to sound like a jerk, but sin (or whatever term you have for it) is human nuture.
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I don't believe in sin- I do believe in right and wrong- but sin is a very Christian concept and I'm a pagan. Using the word in the context I would think about it would only confuse the issue terribly. I believe one can do wrong, but I don't believe in the Christian concept of sin.
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We don't really know if animals have emotions or not. Last I checked anyway. We say that they don't and are incapable, but dolphins have emotions (I don't have an artical it was on Discovery channel one day when I was bored) so who knows if animals have emotions or not? *Note- not actually a question I don't want to derail the thread- if you can answer without derailing then please feel free.
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