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I study evolution (among other things) for a living. Could you please be specific: what am I lying about?It's good that mathematicians are disproving false narative, maybe it's time for detectives to reveal evolutionists as deliberate liars.
I study evolution (among other things) for a living. Could you please be specific: what am I lying about?
I'm a scientist. Scientists study things for a living.How can you study something for a living? You get paid to study?
There's also evidence of creationists who were outed as liars, and politicians who were outed as liars, and ministers of the gospel who were outed as liars. You'd better have something a little more substantial if you're going to be tossing this kind of accusation around.I don't know what are you lying about, but there are already evidence about prominent evolutionists in the last two hundred years who were outed as liars.
None. I'm a geneticist. I've personally thousands of human genomes, and compared the human genome to that of a fair number of other species. Since you seem to have a better handle on my field than I do -- how many fossils have you examined? How many genomes?And if you study evolution, how many human or "human ancestor" fossils have you personally investigated, touched with your hand, researched in detailed manner, and drawn conclusion about?
None. I'm a geneticist. I've personally thousands of human genomes, and compared the human genome to that of a fair number of other species. Since you seem to have a better handle on my field than I do -- how many fossils have you examined? How many genomes?
It's good that mathematicians are disproving false narative,
I have read some papers that after who knows how many thousands of iterations of life cycles of simple life forms, no evolution was detected.
As Everybodyknows points out above, Abiogenesis is the problem.
As you see, that argument also "proves" that card games and humans are too unlikely to exist. But they are just as clearly here as evolution is. Here's a hint; no mathematician would make such a silly error in logic. Wildly improbable things (like you, for example) happen all the time without any magic involved.
So no point in arguing about it.
Because we need an ocean the size of a planet and a few hundred million years of time.I'm simply asking why humans haven't produced life in a lab already. We are more than capable of recreating the conditions which were theoretically present at the time of RNA conception. Why haven't we?
I'm simply asking why humans haven't produced life in a lab already. We are more than capable of recreating the conditions which were theoretically present at the time of RNA conception. Why haven't we?
Looking forward to winning the Lotto this weekend then are we?Yea ods again.
Well given the OP, the OP can't exist either.View attachment 189515
Yes it is difficult, but you have to admit that whatever it is that started biological auto reproduction, a single protein string is a whole lot less functionally coherent, at least 2 or 3 steps less for example, than that thing.To start life the minimum is only self replicating. Self repairing or correcting are unnecessary. Also we simply don't know if it started with protein at all or some other chemistry. There aren't any known self replicating proteins, DNA is not self replicating on its own, it needs an array of biochemical machinery to support the copying process. RNA world is a hypothesis with many holes to fill. So until someone can postulate the exact nature of the first self replicator, talking about probability is just vague guesswork.
LOL. Like the Auditors of Terry Pratchet stories or the accountants of business circles, they hate the messy business of life and just want things to be neat and tidy and logical.Like love, which constitutes the core of our two most important commandments? Do you think we are commanded to love, but for those who get to the other side it's all just hard cold facts and, maybe, math?
Sounds very clinical clean and demonic to me.https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Auditors_of_Reality said:The Auditors hate life, because it is untidy. By their nature, the Auditors take the view that for a thing to exist it has to have a position in time and space. But all the things that distinguish human beings, such as imagination, pity, hope, history and belief, don’t do time and space. Humanity, by belief, allows things to become that don’t exist. Death said that matter has a fear and hatred of life, and the Auditors are the bearers of that hatred. Periodically they try to tidy things up.
In the common vernacular, evolution is a big word that can mean anything from change over time to biogenesis. So what specifically do you spout in respect of the things you study?I study evolution (among other things) for a living. Could you please be specific: what am I lying about?
Well, no, logically a grand unified theory of particle physics should be at the foundation, right? But we don't need to have a theory of everything to study and understand some things. We don't need to know where life came from to study how it changes. We don't need to know how internal combustion engines were invented to study fuel efficiency changes in 21st century cars. We don't need to know where Indo-European came from to study Elizabethan poetry.Logically, abiogenesis should be at the foundation of the theory of evolution. So to say it's unrelated is akin to saying that the invention of the first automobile is irrelevant to the evolution of the 2017 hybrid car. There is a common denominator.
Spout?In the common vernacular, evolution is a big word that can mean anything from change over time to biogenesis. So what specifically do you spout in respect of the things you study?
Chloroquine resistant malaria is definitely a fact, a fact that has led to the death of millions. (Drug resistance in malaria is one of the things I study.) Abiogenesis is not part of evolution at all, and I agree that how animal body plans arose is not a fact. What I would consider a fact is that animals with different body plans descended from a common ancestor.Because quite obviously change over time such as finch beaks and deer night vision loss, or perhaps nylonase and chloroquine resistant malaria are facts. Whereas (for example) unguided chemical biogenisis and and accidental bauplan development are quite definitely not.
Who's worked up? You suggested that we were deliberate liars and I'm asking you to back up your suggestion. (And no, you didn't suggest that I personally was a deliberate liar; you just suggested that the group of which I am a member consists of deliberate liars.)Hey, it was off the cuff response, what are you getting so worked about? I wasn't talking about you.
And I'm asking you to support your suggestions of evil-doing with some evidence. So which is it: do you have some support for your insinuation, or was it baseless slander?But I do think that most prominent evolutionists are ripe for some detective work.
Whole field seems fishy to me.
Not totally unknown -- I do sometimes read scientific papers on fossils. But no, I have no expertise in that field, which is why I seldom comment on it.You yourself have said that you haven't examined not one fossil. So that area is totally unknown to you.
I have observed that genetic differences between humans and chimpanzees look exactly like accumulated random mutations in what were once identical genomes. Mutations that occur frequently appear often as differences between the two species; ones that occur rarely appear rarely. Parts of the genome where mutation occurs more rapidly also show greater differences between the species.What have you personally discovered, evolution wise, that proves evolution from your field of study?
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