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Every believer is filled (Spirit within) at new birth. Yes, we apparently can "leak" at times and get re-filled. But you are confusing the baptism and gifts of the Spirit with being filled. Those are all "Spirit upon."
2 I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.In Song of Solomon chapter 5, verse 2 and following, is an interesting narrative. Shulamite is in bed, dreaming or fantasizing that her lover is at the door. She becomes aroused. She awakes with her hand dripping with wetness. What do you think she was doing?
BTW, in that story, she is called undefiled.
It is clearer in the Hebrew. Myrrh ( and occasionally frankincense) is symbolic all thru the poem of her wetness from arousal.It says nothing of the sort. Her lover is calling, wet from the moisture of the air outside.
No. I checked with an open-minded.It is clearer in the Hebrew. Myrrh ( and occasionally frankincense) is symbolic all thru the poem of her wetness from arousal.
This symbology is common in ancient near east erotic poetry.
You are intentionally reading a non-sexual explanation.
Her hand is not mentioned.
The only wet body part mentioned in here is the males hair and head.
5 I arose to open for my beloved, And my hands dripped with myrrh,
My fingers with liquid myrrh, On the handles of the lock.
In Song of Solomon chapter 5, verse 2 and following, is an interesting narrative. Shulamite is in bed, dreaming or fantasizing that her lover is at the door. She becomes aroused. She awakes with her hand dripping with wetness. What do you think she was doing?
BTW, in that story, she is called undefiled.
FYI: the word "door" is actually not in verse 4. It is just "hole."She sees his hand through the door, has compassion but when going to the door he has gone.
What Jews consider to be seductive marriage bed pillow talk christians actually believe to be sacred scripture enacting spiritual truths of love and care of God to His disciple. Spiritual bodies are not fleshly.FYI: the word "door" is actually not in verse 4. It is just "hole."
The word hole is used elsewhere in the OT to describe a body cavity or a snake hole in the ground.
Did you notice what I wrote?Your first post was a little incorrect then.
He was writing from a viewpoint that the Song was only an allegory of Christ and the church, which disallowed a specifically sexual understanding. Other commentators of his era said the same. In Benson's Commentary, the preface to the Song said that any sexual understanding of the book was perverse and sinful.I checked Matthew Henry's commentary
I read different versions and with the more modern versions it does sound more sensual. So I can see where you are getting it from now. Next time quote the passage and not just a verse.FYI: the word "door" is actually not in verse 4. It is just "hole."
The word hole is used elsewhere in the OT to describe a body cavity or a snake hole in the ground.
Lol.. no I didn't notice the words 'and following.' Besides the KJV version I read originally said 'the door'. When I read multiple versions that KJV had 'the door' in a different type to show it was an addition.Did you notice what I wrote?
"In Song of Solomon chapter 5, verse 2 and following,"
Not just verse 2.
He was writing from a viewpoint that the Song was only an allegory of Christ and the church, which disallowed a specifically sexual understanding. Other commentators of his era said the same. In Benson's Commentary, the preface to the Song said that any sexual understanding of the book was perverse and sinful.
Hebrew as a language supports multiple layers of meaning, all true. All Semitic languages have that feature. (Chaldean, Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic) So in this case, both the intensely erotic love poem AND the allegory between either God and Israel or Christ and the Church, are equally true.hat Jews consider to be seductive marriage bed pillow talk christians actually believe to be sacred scripture enacting spiritual truths of love and care of God to His disciple. Spiritual bodies are not fleshly.
Different levels of truth. Someone from a base level of truth cannot understand that of a higher truth until revealed. But after the higher level of truth is obtained then it's a sin to fall back on the lower level of truth.Hebrew as a language supports multiple layers of meaning, all true. All Semitic languages have that feature. (Chaldean, Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic) So in this case, both the intensely erotic love poem AND the allegory between either God and Israel or Christ and the Church, are equally true.
That is why I go back to the original. So much can be lost (or added in this case) in translation.Besides the KJV version I read originally said 'the door'.
That is not how it works. All 4 levels are equally true, even if they conflict with one another. There is no "higher" or "lower" level.Different levels of truth. Someone from a base level of truth cannot understand that of a higher truth until revealed. But after the higher level of truth is obtained then it's a sin to fall back on the lower level of truth.
Yes there is. God's truth and man's truth.That is not how it works. All 4 levels are equally true, even if they conflict with one another. There is no "higher" or "lower" level.
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