Masturbation

[Zebra1552]

Yes...not sure what you're trying to say here.

So if I took a picture of you and made it look like someone else, it'd still be a pic of you? I find that hard to believe.

 

[david_x]

So if I took a picture of you and made it look like someone else, it'd still be a pic of you? I find that hard to believe.

Yes, you even said you took the picture of me. I might come to look like someone else, but that doesn't mean I become someone else. If I were to surgically get breasts, remove some other stuff and change my face, I would still be me.

 

[Zebra1552]

...the line between fantasy and reality is a fine one indeed. I'm talking about your picture, bro, not you. You are not your picture. Remember the law of identity?

 

[david_x]

...the line between fantasy and reality is a fine one indeed. I'm talking about your picture, bro, not you. You are not your picture. Remember the law of identity?

I was talking about my picture too.

 

[Zebra1552]

I was talking about my picture too.

You are not your picture. Remember the law of identity?

 

[david_x]

You are not your picture. Remember the law of identity?

I never said that I was my picture...

It was an illustration, I can not be morphed into anything/anybody but myself. A picture of me is a picture of me no matter how disfigured it is.

 

[Zebra1552]

That's the problem with Americans. Always with the linear thinking...

 

[david_x]

That's the problem with Americans. Always with the linear thinking...

If it's not a picture of me then who is it of?

 

[Zebra1552]

Is it possible for a picture to change?

 

[david_x]

Is it possible for a picture to change?

Yes, but it is impossible to change the subject without first destroying the picture. (This just leaves a blank canvas.)

 

[Zebra1552]

Then what do you consider a caricature to be?

 

[david_x]

Then what do you consider a caricature to be?

....a caricature. What kind of things are you looking for? It's a picture drawn by pencil on paper. (Typically)

 

[Zebra1552]

Is a caricature a picture of the person it is caricaturing, or is it fictional?

 

[david_x]

Is a caricature a picture of the person it is caricaturing, or is it fictional?

It's a caricature of the person.

 

[Zebra1552]

Answer the question. Is it real or fictional?

 

[david_x]

Answer the question. Is it real or fictional?

It's a real picture.

 

[Zebra1552]

Is the caricature real or fictional? Please stop dodging around.

 

[david_x]

Is the caricature real or fictional? Please stop dodging around.

I just said it was a real picture...

 

[cowboysfan1970]

...did you read the verse or not? It clearly says that breasts should satisfy you always, that's hardly reproduction. I think I have made it quite clear by now that I think sex would be about the greatest thing ever...

I read the verse. What I wasn't sure of was how you interpreted it. For example I was lead to believe that the Song of Solomon and those verses in Psalms were allegorical and not literal. Only a person with more of "the world" in them than "the Word" would think they have some sort of sexual meaning. I was thinking that you might be coming from an anti-pleasure point of view and that's why you condemned masturbation.

If it's important in your own relationship with God to not touch then don't do it. But make sure you don't start treading into legalism where you make your own views on things laws for everyone.

 

[Zebra1552]

I just said it was a real picture...

Obviously the picture is real, is the content of the picture real or fictional? Stop dodging around.