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I did find something outrageously ridiculous in it:
A hundred thousand pages of masonic literature with no conclusion!
You have no idea how much reading this hurts me. I took you to be a sincere person, and I said as much near the end of the recently deleted thread.
Here is the verse:How does your quoted statement above mesh with 1 John 2:21-22,
There's a distinction between the "lies" of O.F.F and Masonry:It amazes me that the things Masonry is falsely accused of are admitted as the game plan of those who accuse.
Thank you, I appreciate it. So I guess it was an anomaly then.
Yet, he also lies not being a member, well, there's actually a grain of truth in it... While he is a member on paper, many of his views opposes Masonry. I wouldn't call that "member" rather a spy or traitor or even an enemy.
I'm not sure what you are explaining there. Is it that by remaining a member but claiming not to be a member gives him an advantage in building his own fame as a Mason-fighter?Lying to serve personal agendas - advance in career/get a promotion at work, to grab an opportunity for worldly success, achieve favorable position in worldly dealings, achieve higher profit in business. In this case, it shows your attachment to worldly things which Jesus preaches against.
There's a distinction between the "lies" of O.F.F and Masonry:
O.F.F's game plan is to take advantage of his membership in masonry to get people out of the organization. He uses the membership as proof, he was inside the org for some time.
Yet, he also lies not being a member, well, there's actually a grain of truth in it... While he is a member on paper, many of his views opposes Masonry. I wouldn't call that "member" rather a spy or traitor or even an enemy.
Is it that by remaining a member but claiming not to be a member gives him an advantage in building his own fame as a Mason-fighter?
Dude, did you NOT read my last post? You've been on here long enough, and have seen enough of my posts, to know that I AM NO LONGER A MASON!
Furthermore, I may rigorously debate with Masons about the heretical teachings of Freemasonry, but I AM ALSO NOT A MASON-FIGHTER!
In fact, the primary Mason whom one might glean I was 'fighting' from the history of my posts is actually now a good friend of mine. He and I talk on Facebook and 'live' by phone quite regularly.
As professing Christians, we both agreed that our former behavior toward one another did not give God glory at all; no matter how much either of us thought our respective positions did. So we decided to cease and desist while agreeing to disagree about Freemasonry without being disagreeable.
I realize that there are many misrepresentations about Masons. And certainly they not are perfect. But why is there such a campaign against them. I have not know many personally who are Masons, but they seem very much like anyone else. Many of the U.S. leaders have been members of the Masons and it was at one time very prestigous to be a member of the Masons. Why the turn around
Furthermore, I may rigorously debate with Masons about the heretical teachings of Freemasonry, but I AM ALSO NOT A MASON-FIGHTER!
You were 'referencing' ME in your reply to TW. Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, YOU were 'addressing' me in your post.
Absolutely! As I commented, I WILL respond whenever you mischaracterize my position in ANY of YOUR posts.
I'm not sure what you are explaining there. Is it that by remaining a member but claiming not to be a member gives him an advantage in building his own fame as a Mason-fighter?
I asked another person about HIS understanding of these matters. That's when you tried to preempt his answer.
When I read O.F.F's explanation on his membership, I trusted it to be Truth...
Would that account for all the terrible things you've said about Masons on these threads? Explain the logic there, please.Sorry, but I am severely biased against anyone who assails the character, rather than the matter being discussed.
Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity because it promotes indifferentism.
Indifferentism is the heretical belief that all religions are equally legitimate attempts to explain the truth about God which, but for the truth of His existence, are unexplainable. Such a view makes all truths relative and holds that God can be equally pleased with truth and error. Because Christians believe that God has definitively revealed Himself in the person of Jesus Christ, and desires that all men come to the knowledge of this truth, indifferentism is incompatible with Christian faith. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me." (John 14:6).
Nope. That's not the case, either.Freemasonry's teachings and practices also result in syncretism which is the blending of different religious beliefs into a unified whole.
This is evidenced most especially by Masonry's religious rituals which gather men of all faiths around a common altar, and place all religious writings along side the Bible on the Masonic altar.
Give us an example.This is also demonstrated by the Lodge's prayers
No, there is no such promise made.The Lodge's practice of requiring its members to swear immoral oaths is also incompatible with Christianity. These oaths require a Christian to swear on the Holy Bible that he will uphold a code of moral conduct that prefers Masons over non-Masons,
and to preserve secret passwords and handshakes
There isn't a one of these SYMBOLIC gestures that can compete with what the RCC actually has done to innocent people merely for being suspected of heresy.These oaths are also sworn under symbolic, blood-curdling penalties of physical torture and death called self-curses (e.g. having my throat cut across, and my tongue torn out by its roots).
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