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Oblio

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Or it might just lead to a personal relationship with Christ?

Independent and error prone 'thinking' in matters of doctrine and dogma are not necessary to form a relationship with Christ. Unless of course the relationship you are seeking is estrangement

It is not the Orthodox Church that has embraced symbolic Resurrection, Nestorian Christological theology, gay marriage, women 'priests', hierarchical Trinitarian 'theology' ...
 
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Independent and error prone 'thinking' in matters of doctrine and dogma are not necessary to form a relationship with Christ. Unless of course the relationship you are seeking is estrangement

It is not the Orthodox Church that has embraced symbolic Resurrection, Nestorian Christological theology, gay marriage, women 'priests', hierarchical Trinitarian 'theology' ...

Yes, there are some that have embraced those beliefs and they will have to answer to God for it, not to your church. Error "prone" thinking is the nature of humans, including church leaders.
 
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Or it might just lead to a personal relationship with Christ? God given free will is a beautiful thing.:thumbsup:
YOu make the assumption that one cannot be a fully practicing Catholic or Orthodox and NOT have a personal relationship with Christ. I think you grossly misunderstand our faiths
 
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YOu make the assumption that one cannot be a fully practicing Catholic or Orthodox and NOT have a personal relationship with Christ. I think you grossly misunderstand our faiths
No, you guys make it sound like a Prot. can't have a personal relationship with Jesus outside the RCC/EO church.
 
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No, you guys make it sound like a Prot. can't have a personal relationship with Jesus outside the RCC/EO church.
Stop generalizing. I've said no such thing, and such a belief is not part of church teaching.

UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO said:
Our thoughts turn first to those Christians who make open confession of Jesus Christ as God and Lord and as the sole Mediator between God and men, to the glory of the one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We are aware indeed that there exist considerable divergences from the doctrine of the Catholic Church concerning Christ Himself, the Word of God made flesh, the work of redemption, and consequently, concerning the mystery and ministry of the Church, and the role of Mary in the plan of salvation. But we rejoice to see that our separated brethren look to Christ as the source and center of Church unity. Their longing for union with Christ inspires them to seek an ever closer unity, and also to bear witness to their faith among the peoples of the earth.

The daily Christian life of these brethren is nourished by their faith in Christ and strengthened by the grace of Baptism and by hearing the word of God. This shows itself in their private prayer, their meditation on the Bible, in their Christian family life, and in the worship of a community gathered together to praise God. Moreover, their form of worship sometimes displays notable features of the liturgy which they shared with us of old.


Their faith in Christ bears fruit in praise and thanksgiving for the blessings received from the hands of God. Among them, too, is a strong sense of justice and a true charity toward their neighbor. This active faith has been responsible for many organizations for the relief of spiritual and material distress, the furtherance of the education of youth, the improvement of the social conditions of life, and the promotion of peace throughout the world.
 
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Stop generalizing. I've said no such thing, and such a belief is not part of church teaching.
ok, not a church teaching..but what do YOU as a person..an individual think? I don't want to hear what the 'church' says...
 
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The problem is the RCC and EO have a strong desire to reconcile. (Maybe not individually, but corporately, yes)
What are the odds of this actually happening? You believe that you are the only ones interested in "reunification?" We're as prayerful, but we all have our standards and I don't see anybody, RCs or EOs included willing to compromise their standards for the good of reunification. :sigh:
 
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ok, not a church teaching..but what do YOU as a person..an individual think? I don't want to hear what the 'church' says...

im going to go out on a limb and venture to guess that he personally believes what his Church teaches.

personal opinions dont mean jack squat when truth is concerned, thus Catholics conform themselves to the Catholic Church, and Orthodox conform themselves to the Orthodox Church. now whether or not you think those churches are true is besides the point -- the point is that I am not hte author of Christianity and therefore i dont get to decide what the Scriptures mean or what the faith is. either i conform to the truth or im just making up my own religion.
 
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I don't see statue/icon veneration going on in the Bible, no icons at the center of the church, no prayers to any passed on, so i guess i'm not of the Accord.
Me neither. There is something in Exodus about statues..but then..hey, they really aren't 'statues'...and just because God said not to make them...ah, what does He know?? Another one of those things that can be explained away..kinda like how brother isn't brother etc...
 
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Or it might just lead to a personal relationship with Christ? God given free will is a beautiful thing.:thumbsup:

Is it not free wil to except what the Church teaches? I don't see anyone pointing a gun to our heads. We are free to disagree and leave if we want..
 
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Me neither. There is something in Exodus about statues..but then..hey, they really aren't 'statues'...and just because God said not to make them...ah, what does He know?? Another one of those things that can be explained away..kinda like how brother isn't brother etc...
Poor interpretation on your part. I see it happening right after God supposedly prohibititing it in Genisis. Tis ashame they started worshiping it though. Fortunately we do not.
 
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Is it not free wil to except what the Church teaches? I don't see anyone pointing a gun to our heads. We are free to disagree and leave if we want..

Isn't that what I just said? What is your point junior?
 
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