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What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.
 

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What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.

When I was first saved I was coming from a background of heavy pot smoking. I smoked that stuff like a smoke stack!
Making the transition from smoking pot to not smoking pot, just because I had become Christian, did'nt happen immediately. I did immediately consider it wrong and that it was something that had to stop; but, as bad habits can go, I would succumb to the temptation occassionally within my early Christian years. Actually, If I had smoked (after my conversion), I felt much more enlightened and felt that I was able to understanding more about God and the Bible when I was under the influence, than when I was'nt. It's a fact that pot is a mind expanding drug, and for all practical purposes, I may have obtained some "extra" depth more quickly in my thinking, while I was under the influence, but I soon came to realize it was destroying more than it was helping.

We've all heard how pot destroys brain cells. If anyone's heard that, then they have probably also heard how your brain replaces these brain cells, so it does'nt really matter.
That's an old wives tale! Smoking pot makes us dumb and lazy (period) and it's not as easily reversed as the myth goes that a brain is able to reproduce some brain cells as fast as we destroy them. Brain cells are our capacity for depth in thinking. Realizing this I begin to understand that the rush of aurora I was getting from a joint may have been giving me a charge, but it was only in the short term and that it was eventually going to ruin the long term. It's kind of like the differance in charging a car battery, whereas, a slow trickled charge is always much better than a fast rushed charged [overtime]. It became convicting to me that I was altering and modifying the very vessel (my head!) God had provided me with (for X amount of years) so that I could understand him fully.
As I continued to waver some, in my early Christian years , the "feeling" of the high changed too. It went from having fun and not a care in the world to deep regret and conviction for what I was doing to God's temple. All pot ever did for me anymore was give me guilt to dwell on (amplified, mind expanded guilt!!). True reality in Christ's atonement for our sins does not allow guilt. I use to think that the old cliche', "that pot was the devils weed", was stupid and superstitious (even while I was wavering), but I begin to see why some would refer to it as such.
I also realized, that while under the influence, I was out of the loop (so to speak) of reality, and it was only within reality that one can fully grasp the person of Christ and grow. The person of Christ was not somewhere I wanted to escape from.
This is what caused me to completely "hate" drug use so much to the point where I had no regrets for not using it.
 
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It has been many years since I did the "weed" thing. My problem was tobacco. I smoked Camel non-filters for 25 years or more -- that is, until last week. I prayed that God would deliver me from them . . . and He did!

I remember other Christians over the years coming up to me with their scriptural guilt trips. One man said: "The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Do you want to fill it up with smoke?" I directed him to Isaiah 6:4 which specifically said that "the temple was filled with smoke." (He didn't say any more!) One lady tried to encourage me. She said that I could smoke cigarettes and still go to heaven . . . I'd just smell like hell!

I think the thing that really got to me was my testimony. I didn't like the fact that some habit and addiction had a hold on me. The closer I felt to God, the less I wanted anything to get in the way of Him.

You can argue the substance from many different viewpoints -- and win. My question to you is the same one I examined -- "Do you like anything but God controlling you?"

Stephen Tanneberg
 
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speak wisdom said:
What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.
I know where your at right now. I use to smoke all the time. The love of Jesus came over that temptation though. I wont even touch the stuff or even look its way now. And I have never felt better.

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Marihuana acts as a gateway towards harddrugs, which is why you should quit it. Heavy smoking or drinking alcohol won't send you to hell, the problem is that you don't understand what a precious 'gift' a human body is, in other words you take a healthy body for granted. When you see a plane with a donor liver of 500 000 $ rushing towards a hospital in order to save someone's life, then you might get a slight idea of how value that stuff inside of your body is.

A damaged 'aura' gives acces to demons inside your body, thats where the big problem lies. You can't see them but demons are 'constantly' hungry and cold and as such they are all hunting to attach themselves on people who abuse alcohol and drugs to get 'a ride' so they can drink and use drugs along with you.

That might sound strange to you , and you might never realised until now that you need ' a body ' to be able to smoke,use drugs, drink beer. The first drinks/drug uses come from 'yourself' , however because the aura becomes unstable, demons are able to use their 'will' to try to motivate you to take more beer or harder types of drugs or combinations, ( you might remember some bar fights ) ,next they will try to downgrade you to agressive behaviour and hatred, when you 'collapse' from an overdosis drugs/alcohol , your aura breaks, and within 1 second a demonic entity will attach itself to your body, and drink along with you, you will be held responsible by God for the hatred/agression you casted upon others. On a side note, there are a LOT of lost souls in the life hereafter who frantically try to grab a package of sigarettes, but their hands go right thru it because they don't have a body to smoke it.

This is why Jesus warned us to distantiate ourselves from eartly desires, because in the afterlife it creates 'attachments' , when you desire stuff like alcohol,marihuana,drugs or what not you become an 'earthbound' soul, which means you can't ascend to a state of heaven. Although you can climb out of that kind of a hell and be saved by God, its better to prevent an attachment to earthly desires to begin with.
 
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it cant be too good for your body i imagine

Question: "What does the Bible say about doing drugs?"



Answer: The drugs that are in existence today either did not exist or were not common in Bible times. As a result, the Bible does not address drug use. The Bible does tell us to avoid anything that is harmful to our bodies (1 Corinthians 6:20) and to not get involved with anything that is addicting (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19). Drugs fail both of these tests. The Bible also tells us to obey the laws of the country we live in (Romans 13:1-4). Drugs are illegal and therefore we should stay away from them for that reason alone, even if they were not also addicting and harmful to our health.

found on this website: http://www.gotquestions.org/sin-drugs.html
 
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speak wisdom said:
What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.
Put it in for yourself.You are the one smoking dope.You are clearly aware that it is the wrong thing to be doing.In the first place you are breaking the law.Aside from that it is a terrible waste of time and money.I was a doper for a lot of years.Frankly, it's pointless to try to desuade an avid dope smoker.However you may be different.You have said that you would be willing to quit if you hear the right arguement.Here it is.Quit.Quit for a month.Do not take one hit for 30 days,then consider the effect of quitting.How difficult it was.How tempted you were to smoke.What it did to your social life.You will see how important pot is in your life,and you will know beyond a doubt,that you are an addict.If not you should be able to do this without effect.Oh, and as far as the issue with God,well, you already know the answer to that.
 
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Scripture says we are to be controlled by the Holy Spirit. When we are under the influence of a chemical, be it marijuana, or alcohol, or another drug, the Holy Spirit is not in control of us. The chemical is in control. That is a foothold for the enemy to enter our thoughts and tempt us to sin greatly against the Lord. I would rather be high on Jesus than any drug on this earth.

Don't get me wrong, I did the marijuana in the 70s. I am in recovery for alcoholism. I also struggle with an eating disorder, so I understand the temptations you are dealing with.

Bottom line, are you walking in the Spirit, or letting drugs to control your mind?

You get to choose. I pity those who don't know Christ. They have no choice but the drugs. Consider yourself blessed because you have choices.
 
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If it controls you or harms you, I would say God probally isn't happy about it. He made you and your body. He crafted it. We should take care of ourselves out of respect for ourselves and God. Our bodies are temples, and needed to be treated as such.

My 2 cents anyway.

Christina
 
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speak wisdom said:
What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.
The Bible does not address smoking Marijuana per say, i.e. Thou shalt not smoke Marijuana. But it does speak to submitting to the authorities appointed over you. These authorities include the laws of the nation.

Some might try to hyperspiritualize themselves using passages that support our bodies being the temple of the Holy Spirit, but the context does not necessarily support their arguement. As far as your salvation I personally do not believe that you will lose it because of smoking pot. If that were so, I am sure a lot of Christians would be in deep kimshi now.
 
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Bless you,, Well what I'm about to say, hopefully will make sense to you.... You already know the answer to your question,, way way down in the deep of your heart.. Asking sometimes justifies what we want to hear,, then we go on with it, ignoring what God is saying to our hearts... seek Him,, you will find Him after you have searched with ALL of your heart.. Love in the Lord,, Faye
 
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speak wisdom said:
What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.

Well, Think about this, smoking, anything is unhealthy.
God says not to break the laws of your land, and in america it is against the law, (not sure about where you live) (I don't really think it should be against the law anywhere though...)
I feel like it can lead to a break in how close you are to God, one, if you start to become addicted, then it is more important to you then God, that is idolitry. (spelling is not my strong point) If you feel like this might bring you and God further apart, even if it is a small chance, Then that should be enough just Stop. God says don't be drunk, being High is nearly the same thing isn't it? It messes up judgement, and hurts your body. If you think God doesn't care about what you do with your body, then that is sad because he does care. God also cares about you setting a good example for the beleivers and non - beleivers, and smoking Pot, is not a good example. Because even if it isn't a down fall to you, others may see you do it and it will become a downfall for them.
 
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speak wisdom said:
What does the bible say about it? I smoke weed from time to time but if that's a deal breaker between God and myself then I'm letting it go as soon as I possibly can. I heard what seems to be valid arguements from both sides but someone put the nail in the coffin for me.

Well you hurt your body, which is a undeserved gift from god!

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I think it depends on why you do it. How much you do it. Do you smoke because you like the high? Not good. The bible is clear about being drunk as opposed to alcohol in moderation. I live in California, where it is legal for many people here. I smoke from time to time, but for medicinal reasons only. It gets rid of headaches, nausea, anxiety. It's been awhile since I did, but for me, I don't think it's wrong because my motivation isn't to get high, but to feel better.

And yes, our bodies are out temple. But that applies to everything. Sugar, fat, exercise, all of it. Don't single out pot as you eat your double cheeseburger from McDonalds. But if you feel you NEED pot, need the high, then it's wrong for you.
 
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