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[timothyu]

so, what was the point of your post?

When it comes to a church, any church, the movie speaks for itself.

 

[Lukaris]

I will have to see this movie; it is great that many Christians seem to find it inspiring.

 

[ArmyMatt]

When it comes to a church, any church, the movie speaks for itself.

I have seen the movie, I still don’t follow your point.

 

[timothyu]

I will have to see this movie; it is great that many Christians seem to find it inspiring.

What I found inspiring was his attitude, not his religion. Precisely what God asked of us. His will , not man's.

 

[ArmyMatt]

What I found inspiring was his attitude, not his religion. Precisely what God asked of us. His will , not man's.

except his attitude would not have been what it was apart from the Orthodox Church.

again, what was the point of your post?

 

[timothyu]

except his attitude would not have been what it was apart from the Orthodox Church.

Many a person goes through life humble and putting others before self.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Many a person goes through life humble and putting others before self.

sure, but St Nektarios would not have the way he did apart from Orthodoxy.

so again, the point of posting here was what?

 

[Cody J Dunbar]

Just watched the movie last night. It was fantastic! I actually thought it was going to be more of a budget indie film, but it was very well done, and the acting was top-notch.

 

[timothyu]

so again, the point of posting here was what?

The same as the point of the movie.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The same as the point of the movie.

your posts indicate you don’t know the point of the movie.

 

[timothyu]

your posts indicate you don’t know the point of the movie.

The point is man is corrupt, especially in positions of power, including the churches (Matthew 23). There is no denying man's nature of self interest (original sin) was behind all the woes of this saint, especially those within the church which werehis main oppressors. This included those who claimed to support him yet expected favour, making them no different in spirit than his persecutors.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The point is man is corrupt, especially in positions of power, including the churches (Matthew 23). There is no denying man's nature of self interest (original sin) was behind all the woes of this saint, especially those within the church which werehis main oppressors. This included those who claimed to support him yet expected favour, making them no different in spirit than his persecutors.

except that as a bishop, he was also in a position of power, so I don’t think that’s it.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Yes an excellent example, but what is sad is churches create saints to give the impression to the people that they can never act in the same ways, setting saints above the realm of ordinary man, and the people instead must remain under the control of the church which itself usually persecuted it's own. It maintains the clergy's status by giving themselves an excuse not to act as the saints did but still claim to represent God. This story is a good example of just that.

plus, that statement doesn’t necessarily follow this one here, which was what has been confusing.

 

[timothyu]

except that as a bishop, he was also in a position of power, so I don’t think that’s it.

Of course that is it, as he was the exception to their behaviour. It is why he stood out and felt the brunt of persecution, as does anyone of the counter-culture of the Kingdom which clashes with the culture of self serving man.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Of course that is it, as he was the exception to their behaviour. It is why he stood out and felt the brunt of persecution, as does anyone of the counter-culture of the Kingdom which clashes with the culture of self serving man.

that’s there in the movie, but that’s not the actual point of the movie. just because a movie has a theme in it doesn’t mean that’s the point of the movie.

 

[timothyu]

that’s there in the movie, but that’s not the actual point of the movie. just because a movie has a theme in it doesn’t mean that’s the point of the movie.

The point of the movie is follow Jesus' two commandments and see how the world will hate you for it, as his two commandments say, putting the will of God ahead of our own, thus loving all as self. This man was hated by those who put their will ahead of the will of God and put self first regardless of the effect on others, sin in it's purest form. It has nothing to do with being a promotional for a church. The same thing that happened to him has happened to others in all sects of Christianity for the same reasons. That is why this movie has universal appeal.

 

[ArmyMatt]

The point of the movie is follow Jesus' two commandments and see how the world will hate you for it, as his two commandments say, putting the will of God ahead of our own, thus loving all as self. This man was hated by those who put their will ahead of the will of God and put self first regardless of the effect on others, sin in it's purest form. It has nothing to do with being a promotional for a church. The same thing that happened to him has happened to others in all sects of Christianity for the same reasons. That is why this movie has universal appeal.

I agree that’s a prominent theme, but is that the point of the movie? can you give more than just an assertion? and what does this have to do with your post earlier (post 11)?

 

[timothyu]

and what does this have to do with your post earlier (post 11)?

What else could the point be(other than a story about the few who find the narrow path to the Kingdom).
They obviously made him a saint 50 years later but realistically it was for the people which in turn was good PR for themselves. And it took the church ninety years to get over themselves in his case to apologize and seek forgiveness didn't it. Such are theways of the governments of man.

 

[ArmyMatt]

What else could the point be(other than a story about the few who find the narrow path to the Kingdom).
They obviously made him a saint 50 years later but realistically it was for the people which in turn was good PR for themselves. And it took the church ninety years to get over themselves in his case to apologize and seek forgiveness didn't it. Such are theways of the governments of man.

you really don’t know how Orthodoxy adds saints to our calendar. you should probably assume less.

 

[timothyu]

you really don’t know how Orthodoxy adds saints to our calendar. you should probably assume less.

Again... the movie wasn't about Orthodoxy.