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Making Marriage Attractive Again?

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Before getting to marriage, which is optional, it's essential to back up a bit to what is not optional.

So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy, complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.
Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. - Philippians 2:1-7
Every Christian is to have this kind of humility and love for his brothers and sisters. It manifests itself in many ways - when believers apologize to one another and forgive each other, when someone at church has a need that you can easily fill, when a crying baby is seen to, when a wife submits to her husband, and when a husband lays down his life for his wife.

See what happened there? It all has the same root. Develop that. This is what makes marriage a holy and sanctifying force - it puts a man and a woman both in stressful circumstances, where they need to do this for each other in order for the relationship to survive and thrive. It is merely a way to accomplish this sanctification.

Now, this isn't to say that spouses who are in physical danger need to remain in physical danger. Matthew 24:15-16 and and John 10:39 and Acts 8:1 show provisions for escaping danger.
Hmmm... Within my own church people rarely share with me things that I could actually help them with. They talk about health problems or delinquent children or aging parents, etc etc. But none of that I have control over. Maybe I need to be praying for something that I can actually help someone with.
 
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The Lord has His plans! Thus He made us and has a reason for what He did and does!

One of the things He does is teach us. He is the Teacher. So He made us and He develops us also.

So what of marriages? Not everyone gets married and the Lord talked about their being eunuchs of different types. So if someone is thinking they don't want to get married, fine. Then again, it was also said that what God puts together, let no man tear apart, and that concerning marriages. Also concerning marriages, there was something about God allowing divorce because of our hard hearts.

Considering all that, what are we supposed to do???

The answer is that we are supposed to seek the Lord and listen to what He has to personally say to us!!

Now we don't do that - not like we should. We are rebellious so don't want t listen to Him.

Is 30:9 For this is a rebellious people, false sons, sons who refuse to listen to the instructions of the Lord

So need to try and not be rebellious, and instead seek our Lord and His instructions. Does He tell you to just 'fool around' in relationships with the opposite sex? From my experience His opinions are pretty much exactly like you read in the Bible. He broken into my life when I was going through a divorce. He did not like the fact that I was going trough a divorce. He had made efforts to get into my life before that, but I had just chosen not to pay attention to Him. The divorce gave Him an opportunity for Him to get my attention, but that only meant I should have paid attention to Him early. The divorce cost me and had many effects that I did not want, but at least I learn to seek Him because of my mistakes.

I wanted another person to share my life with, and in time He set it up. He then used that and my current relationship with Him to teach me many things!! Things like the value of telling another person that you love them. I loved my first wife, but I rarely told her. There is great value in speaking the right thing. That doesn't mean that I never have argument with my current wife. But those give me opportunities to learn more about forgiveness, about watching my tongue, about continuing on an developing a relationship. about many faults that I have and need to work on, about how to handle faults in others correctly, and I could go on and on.

So what of someone saying they don't want a relationship because of the problems that they saw other have with those relationships? Are they not missing the fact that they may have something to learn by perusing a relationship.
I see your point. Marriage can reveal our own weaknesses and areas of improvement. That is definitely a valuable thing. Possible to be learned in a context other than marriage? Maybe...
 
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"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,"
"So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself."
Ephesians 5:25 & 5:28

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church"
Ephesians 5:22-23

Many problems in marriages are caused by people getting married and refusing to follow these commands. But considering 2nd Timothy 3 describes people in the last days as

"3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God"

Should we be surprised? These character traits aren't conducive to a good marriage.

Finally, you mentioned observing people at your workplace. That also is contributing to your skewed view of marriage. Here's why:

"Guys: A word of advice. Marry pretty women or ugly ones. Short ones or tall ones. Blondes or brunettes. Just, whatever you do, don’t marry a woman with a career.

Why? Because if many social scientists are to be believed, you run a higher risk of having a rocky marriage. While everyone knows that marriage can be stressful, recent studies have found professional women are more likely to get divorced, more likely to cheat, less likely to have children, and, if they do have kids, they are more likely to be unhappy about it,,,

Many factors contribute to a stable marriage, including the marital status of your spouse’s parents (folks with divorced parents are significantly more likely to get divorced themselves), age at first marriage, race, religious beliefs and socio-economic status. And, of course, many working women are indeed happily and fruitfully married–it’s just that they are less likely to be so than non-working women. And that, statistically speaking, is the rub...

...To be clear, we’re not talking about a high-school dropout minding a cash register. For our purposes, a “career girl” has a university-level (or higher) education, works more than 35 hours a week outside the home and makes more than $30,000 a year.

If a host of studies are to be believed, marrying these women is asking for trouble. If they quit their jobs and stay home with the kids, they will be unhappy (Journal of Marriage and Family, 2003). They will be unhappy if they make more money than you do (Social Forces, 2006). You will be unhappy if they make more money than you do (Journal of Marriage and Family, 2001). You will be more likely to fall ill (American Journal of Sociology). Even your house will be dirtier (Institute for Social Research)."

So you're fishing in the wrong pond.

Finally, with all the nonsense going on currently, you never want to put yourself in a position where you get involved with a woman who (1) works in the same company or (2) goes to the same post-secondary school to help protect yourself from false allegations.
Well, I know some women who have careers as a necessity, but would gladly drop it cold turkey to raise a family instead. So, career women aren't all out of question.
 
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That's been my experience as well. I remember meeting this 'happy couple', and the guy fully admitted that he always made sure to take a job that worked second shift, so that he was rarely home when his wife, that worked first shift, was home.

Two people setting up their lives to avoid each other as much as possible.

Had a pastor whose wife would publicly humiliate him. Pastor's daughter divorced her husband without reason or cause. Had a wife co-worker that would spend the entire day bad mouthing her husband.

Had another wife co-worker, who would sit there and talk about how dumb her husband was. One day she said he was retiring after 40 years at such and such job. I said he must have loved it, to which she said he hated his job. I asked why he worked there so long. "For us of course!" Referring to herself, and her daughter.

I remember just staring at her, and thinking this guy wasted his whole life working for people, that trash talk him every single day. Then she said a month or two later, that he had a heart attack, and will be confined to a hospital for most of the rest of his life.

Where are these 'happy married people' that others claim exist? I'm sure some people here will claim to be, but it's kind of like blessings of G-d.... I'm sure they exist, but I have had nothing but failure in life. Neither have I met any of these supposedly happy couples.

Similarly, I've never had a woman's involvement in my life, that had anything positive as a result.

So I don't know what to tell you, except I understand your position... I'm right there myself.
I should say, one of my close friends and his wife had not yet had a real argument after being married three years. I'm not sure if that's still true or not... It's not like they got along perfectly, but they were so real with each other that there was no question about why one of them acted a certain way or did something that the other didn't like. And, they both knew Jesus and kept that relationship as their main focus, so that definitely had an affect on everything else.

So I think I've met one truly happy couple, but it wasn't quite enough to keep me from being jaded about the whole thing.
 
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Hmmm... Within my own church people rarely share with me things that I could actually help them with. They talk about health problems or delinquent children or aging parents, etc etc. But none of that I have control over. Maybe I need to be praying for something that I can actually help someone with.
It's really doing anything that can help another person even if it inconveniences you. If your church has any sort of organized service opportunity, you can go to that - you might be giving up sleeping in or an evening of video games, but you're giving of yourself in some small way. Start easy, like with weightlifting.
 
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The Bible takes a very practical view of marriage. Paul was single and seemingly enjoyed it. He wished everyone would remain single so that they could focus on pleasing God.

However, Paul recognized that most people have sexual desires and temptations. Therefore Paul told people to get married if they feel temptation so that they could take care of their carnal needs in a way that God provided. Then they could focus on serving God with the rest of their time.

Application: If you want sex, get married. If you don't want sex, stay single.
 
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All true...there's also the aspect of self-sacrifice for her well being.

It is written that Jesus learned obedience at the cross. So do we learn obedience when we listen to the Lord and do what He says? Of course, and it may indeed mean a sacrifice. Yet, isn't a relationship worth it?

The Lord our God loves us and understands all this better than us. For those who want a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, isn't that relationship worth a sacrifice. Doesn't it give us an opportunity to learn, and even learn the lessons the Lord has for us to learn?

The person that is saying they want to just fool around. are they not missing the fact that God knows better than they do???

In our pride we indeed miss the fact that God is smarter that we are!!!!

We miss that fact of pride, that we are smarter than God, and it effects so many things in our life. It is for that reason we say to ourselves that God is not there. Concerning relationships with others, we say we don't need to seek the Lord and listen to Him, to have a good marriage. We even say we don't need to seek the Lord before entering a relationship. Some say a one 'one night stand' is fine, or someone else's mate is fair game, or even might go so far to contemplate rape and perhaps murder, all because in their pride and belief in themselves, they were unwilling to consider God is smarter than they are!

We are not smarter than God, and He has made the living and active Word of God (Jesus Christ) available through the Spirit of God to those who are willing to believe in Him. You can ask Him questions and pick up response in your spirit, and what better thing than to talk to Him about your relationships. He wants a relationship with you, so asking Him about all your relationship is an excellent way to develop that relationship with Him.

Frankly, you are going to find out that problems you are having with your relationships with others are indicative of the problems you are having in your relationship with the Lord. He is smart! He set it up that way!
 
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Yeah, a lot of times when I imagine getting married, it would be mainly for the purpose of putting everyone's concerns for me to rest. Which is a very bad reason to make such a huge decision! Single people make other people uncomfortable, I realize, and I hate feeling like the odd person everywhere I go.

The Bible makes it clear that not everyone is made to be married. It's written that there are eunuchs made by God. But is that for you? I don't know and your church doesn't know, nor do we even need to know. But God would know and we all need to know Him! Isn't that what your church told you?

So do we actually spend time just seeking answers from our Lord Jesus Christ?

The Lord had me spend about five years in a Christian healing ministry. I saw legs grow out, people leave behind crutches, walkers, and a wheel chair, but by far the ministry was about relationship issues!

The answer was always Jesus!!! --- but what does that mean?

It means that people need to seek Him and listen to Him!!

And so that is what we went about doing - hooking them up directly with the Lord our God, Jesus Christ!

We prayed that God would fill them with His Spirit, because we hear from the Lord our God via the Spirit of God. We asked that He would open up their ears to hear and their eyes to see. Then we would have them start actually seek Him, by having them ask Him little questions like - "Lord Jesus Christ, do you love me?", and have them listen in their spirit. The relationship with Him is of first importance, and how do you start a relationship with someone except to start up a conversation with them?

Now we rarely use our spiritual ears, just like it is written 'with their ears they don't hear'. So it is going to take a small bit of faith, but not more than the size of a mustard seed, and people can come up with that much so they start hearing from Him. Sometimes they get a vision from Him, sometimes a words, sometimes they just pick up a feeling inside, because God is spirit.

Now look, this is ministry, or like the Lord used to tell me "ministry is administering the Kingdom of God". So we get the King of kings to talk to the people and we get the people listening. That is the ministry of the church!

My friends - getting a personal relationship with Jesus Christ will help in so many other ways in your life. It will bring healing. You get forgiveness and salvation. It gives you wisdom, and wise counsel. And it gives you confidence, which is different than pride. Pride is faith in you. Confidence is faith in God, that He made you and He knows what He is doing, so you are who you are because God made you. Knowing that is having confidence. But truly knowing that depends upon knowing God, which requires you develop a personal relationship with Him. So seek Him and what He has to say to you.
 
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I see your point. Marriage can reveal our own weaknesses and areas of improvement. That is definitely a valuable thing. Possible to be learned in a context other than marriage? Maybe...

The real point is that we need to actually seek the Lord and what He has to say to us, which is just saying we need to believe He is!!

It is not about the church and it is. It is not about us either. Nor is it about our relationships with others, but it is about a relationship with Him, which means seeking Him and what He has to say to us.

Then we find that He made us for relationship, with Him first and with others also. Still, it is Him first. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God means we seek Him, the King and the rest follows. And I am not just talking about people, but all that follow too.

I currently help in a prayer room ministry, where people come in to just spend time along with the Lord. It is probably the slowest ministry in the church I attend. Of course people don't need to come to the prayer room to talk with the Lord and should even think they do. Yet it is a nice place to spend time with the Lord, and is a way my church has to remind people to actually spend time listening to the Lord.

Also in the room is a little basket to put in prayer request. As part of that ministry I pray over the requests. I can tell you the majority of the requests are for relationship issues with other people. I can also tell you that when I see those request, my prayer for them is that the Lord Himself would move in an improve His relationship with them. I know that the secret to having a better relationship with others is developing a stronger relationship with Him. I know that because when I talk to Him He almost always talks to me about my relationships with others.

He can and does tell you who to improve your relationships with others. He sets you up with relationships with others. Who was it that provided Eve to Adam? A relationship with God comes first, but as an Adam, I enjoy the relationship with my wife, and He set it up. The way He set me and my wife up together was incredible, but if me then others too, whether they know it or not. Frankly, it is nice to have someone to spend my life together with. I like talking to the Lord, but God is spirit and sometimes I just like to have someone to hug, to love, and to spend a life with! We got to go to the Grand Canyon together earlier this year. We worked the healing ministry together. We work the prayer room together. God plans to have someone to spend your life together with is a good plan!

Still, you are going to have to learn things, because your are not a patient as you should be. You are not as understanding, as your should be. You are not as sensitive to others as you should be. You/we have a lot to learn, and we have a Teacher if we care to believe in Him. Life is good, if you care to believe(in Jesus Christ), because only God is good. His words are spirit and are life, so we must listen to what He has to personally say to us!
 
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I've been single my whole life, though I have had transient crushes on various girls over the years (and vice versa). But nothing has come from any of it - no one made any moves, or the moves weren't recognized - mainly because I was just blind to it.

All my life I've struggled to desire a close relationship with a woman. Just when I think I might be interested in seeking that, I happen to be around a married couple who's yelling at each other or just saying hurtful things or there's just a lot of drama. I loathe that and would rather die than have to live with emotional ups and downs the rest of my life. My childhood was full of that between my grandparents and parents and my friends' parents... So much tension and yelling and hurtful words and I began to hate the very idea of marriage. Now if I just hear one harsh word between spouses, my heart sinks and I'm grateful to be single.

Nowadays, as I work in the secular world I'm surrounded by people my age who have also rejected marriage but have instead opted for "swinging" and sleeping around and even polygamy. They see marriage as a joke, and they treat sex like it's purely an animal instinct as normal as eating food.

So now in addition to hating the drama and hurt that comes with marriage and relationships, I also see it as something dirty and banal - just pheromones making people "love" each other for the sole purpose of having children and preserving the "species".

I know that's not how God sees it. But I'm struggling to see it any other way... Is love really just as vulgar as hormones? For what good reason should I give myself up to a life of hurt and drama?

Suggestions? How can marriage be redeemed as a worthy goal for me?




Even in the best of marriages there is always going to be disagreements but just because a married couple may have an occasional argument or one might say a harsh word to the other from time to time, that doesn’t mean that they don’t love and cherish one another.


But what it comes down to is how those disagreements and conflicts are handled and unfortunately you may have been around married couples and have grown up with parents and grandparents who did not apply the right principles to their marriages.


There is a set of principles that, if applied, can produce wonderful strong and steadfast marriages but the reason why many marriages either fail or are filled with so much conflict and tension is because one or both spouses are not applying to the relationship the right set of principles.


Many people get married for all the wrong reasons with all the wrong expectations and then they separate or divorce for all the wrong reasons. I have been married for what will be twelve years coming this July and when people ask how long I’ve been married, and I tell them, they are amazed at how long my wife and I have been married. They don’t know how we’ve managed to stay together for as long as we have.


And I know that the reason why they don’t know how our marriage has lasted as long as it has is because they don’t know the right set of principles to make a marriage work. And those set of principles that my wife and I apply to our marriage come from no other source than the Bible.


Even before I met my wife, I already knew the following requirements for a lasting marriage had to be met in a wife:




1. That there would be with her spiritual, moral, and doctrinal like-mindedness in all matters essential.


2. That she would be honest, trustworthy, and faithful to keep herself for me and me alone and to stay with me under any given circumstance.


3. That she would love me for the person that I am and nothing more.


4. That she would be understanding, kind, compassionate, and quick to forgive.


5. That she would be supportive of all that God has placed on my heart to do.




All of the above was basically the kind of woman I prayed to receive and was given to me and I have had no regrets since. Those who think love is some kind of pheremonic reaction obviously do not know what love is. That physical/emotional attraction might bring two people together but it will not keep them together. The kind of love that keeps two people together is a love that goes deeper than a mere emotion; a love that can only be described as being selfless.


The 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians gives us the most insight into what that kind of love is; a love that is based on a set of actions. It is not a love we apply when we feel like it, but it is a love that we also apply even when we do not feel like it. It is a love that we choose to practice without relying on the feelings to motivate us but instead, we simply allow the feelings to follow our actions instead of leading our actions.


The love as the world and people whom you’ve been around understand it as a love founded on romantic feelings and erotic sensuality shared between a man and a woman and even that which is supposed to be shared only between a man and a woman is misapplied in some cases, but this is not the thread to discuss how that “erotic” “romantic” love that God intended to be only between a man and a woman has been applied in ways contrary to what He intended it to be used for.


An entire study or thread could be devoted to discussing what love is and what love isn’t. Love that lasts goes beyond the feelings that come and go but sadly the love that is supposed to be applied in marriages does not go beyond the romantic and erotic but stops there and when the romantic and erotic fade, selfishness sets in and hearts become hardened.


The love that is to be put into practice is what is described in 1 Corinthians 13:1-8:



“Charity (love) suffereth long (is patient), and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vauneth not itself (does not put itself forward) is not puffed up, (arrogant) Doth not behave itself unseemly (is not rude or shameful) seeketh not her own (puts the interests of others before itself) is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in truth; beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.”



When you put into practice any or all of the above, you are performing acts of love, even when the feelings of love are not there. When you perform an act of kindness, you are doing an act of love. When you forgive a wrong, you are performing an act of love. When you demonstrate tolerance in non-essential differences, you are performing an act of love. Much more could be said.


The acts of love as described in scripture are choices that we make in our conduct towards one another. If they were consistently applied to marital relationships by both parties therein, divorce would be unheard of and there might not be such a thing as a miserable marriage.


Before sin, God created marriage for two reasons, but to understand the intent and purpose of marriage, you have to understand why God created women. When God created man, God said that it was not good for man to be alone. (Gen 2: God knew that the man was in need of intimate companionship and a companionship of such tremendous intimacy that none of the animals were made capable of providing such a need.


And so God created Eve be that very companion and helper that Adam needed. The secondary reason for marriage was for the production of offspring, (Gen. 1: ) but after sin entered into the world by way of Adam’s disobedience in his eating of that forbidden fruit of the tree from which God told Him not to eat, the containment of sinful passions and wickedness became a more important reason to marry (1 Cor. 7:2, 5, 9) which then has demoted reproduction and the raising of children to reason number three instead of reason number two, but as to why I say that would lead into a different discussion altogether.


Two threads that ought to be started at this point are these: “What Is Love?” and “The Purpose Of Marriage.” I do not know if I’m yet permitted to start any new threads myself yet but anyone else who knows that they are permitted to start new threads on these topics are welcome to go ahead and do so if they feel so led but if new threads covering these subjects were started, I would have a means to expound even further without the risk of going off-topic.


Though you seem to hate the idea of marriage based upon personal yet misguided experiences, you cannot allow yourself to be led into judging marriage based upon what you have experienced even from a second-hand perspective, but you need to view marriage as God intended it to be, and that it requires looking at marriage from a biblical perspective.


It also sounds as though despite your present contentment with the single-life, you still appeared to express desire to have a close and intimate relationship with a woman. That clearly states that you have not been granted the ability to live a single life without falling into sin and while I would not go so far as to outright accuse you of attempting to justify sin, judging by your post, you are dangerously close to doing just that.


I strongly advise that you throw yourself at the mercy of God Almighty and ask Him to conform your perspective of marriage to His perspective so that you do not fall into sin. Furthermore, what kind of a woman could you view yourself spending the rest of your life with? And are the standards you are setting in your mind reasonable and realistic? Yet even before that, you need to spend some time examining yourself to determine where it is you stand on those virtues most fundamental. Where do you stand spiritually, morally, and doctrinally? Once you have determined that, you will then need a woman who is of like mind; that is first and foremost.

And what you want her to be to you, you must also likewise be to her.


If you want her to be one whom you can trust to fulfill her marriage vows in any given circumstance, you must be willing to do the same for her no matter what comes your way.

If you want her to be supportive of whatever dreams, goals, and ambitions you have, or at the very least, issue no objections, you must likewise be the same to her.

If you want her to be someone who is quick to forgive when you do something wrong, (and you will; you are only human after all and fallible at that) you must also be ready to give the same in turn because she is not always going to do everything right and proper either.

If you want someone who is going to keep herself for you and you only, you have to be the same way.

If you want her to be unselfish, you have to be unselfish. A healthy marriage requires self-sacrifice on the parts of both husband and wife because marriage is not about what the husband can do for the wife nor is it about what the wife can do for the husband. It is about what both can do for one another.

If you want her to be understanding, you have to be that way to her.

If you want her to love and receive you for the man that you are and not for what you have or can do, be ready to love and receive her for the kind of woman she is.

If you want her to rejoice in your successes, rejoice also in hers.

If you want her to bear with your failures, be ready to bear with her failures.

If you want her to stay by your side and to comfort you should you suffer a devastating grief or loss, be ready to do the same for her.

If you want her to celebrate your greatest joys, celebrate her greatest joys.


If both of you will do these things and devote yourselves to Christ Jesus, you will have a wonderful marriage.

Do not call evil what God has called good. Marriage is not dirty or banal for it was made by God. Your sadly warped perspective of it, however is. My prayer for you is that you will meet and get to know married couples who will serve as an example of what a marriage in the eyes of God should overall be and that you will not be discouraged by their faults, and that your perspective on marriage will be cleaned up so that you will then view it as the attractive institution that God made it to be.
 
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I've been single my whole life, though I have had transient crushes on various girls over the years (and vice versa). But nothing has come from any of it - no one made any moves, or the moves weren't recognized - mainly because I was just blind to it.

All my life I've struggled to desire a close relationship with a woman. Just when I think I might be interested in seeking that, I happen to be around a married couple who's yelling at each other or just saying hurtful things or there's just a lot of drama. I loathe that and would rather die than have to live with emotional ups and downs the rest of my life. My childhood was full of that between my grandparents and parents and my friends' parents... So much tension and yelling and hurtful words and I began to hate the very idea of marriage. Now if I just hear one harsh word between spouses, my heart sinks and I'm grateful to be single.

Nowadays, as I work in the secular world I'm surrounded by people my age who have also rejected marriage but have instead opted for "swinging" and sleeping around and even polygamy. They see marriage as a joke, and they treat sex like it's purely an animal instinct as normal as eating food.

So now in addition to hating the drama and hurt that comes with marriage and relationships, I also see it as something dirty and banal - just pheromones making people "love" each other for the sole purpose of having children and preserving the "species".

I know that's not how God sees it. But I'm struggling to see it any other way... Is love really just as vulgar as hormones? For what good reason should I give myself up to a life of hurt and drama?

Suggestions? How can marriage be redeemed as a worthy goal for me?

You have to figure out why you want to be married, and see if it vitable for you to pursue. And then just pray for Gods guidance and His will to be done.

The bare minimum in this life is to make it to Heaven, that’s it. If marriage is going to hinder your chances, then it’s better to be single. If being single is going to hinder your chances then it’s better to marry.
 
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Just when I think I might be interested in seeking that, I happen to be around a married couple who's yelling at each other or just saying hurtful things or there's just a lot of drama. I loathe that and would rather die than have to live with emotional ups and downs the rest of my life.

I dread drama too when I hear my neighbors arguing.

So now in addition to hating the drama and hurt that comes with marriage and relationships, I also see it as something dirty and banal - just pheromones making people "love" each other for the sole purpose of having children and preserving the "species"

That one, I cannot relate to...sorry. But no judgment, if you are struggling through this phase in your life (and this too shall pass). The beautiful videos here may be refreshing for your soul:

Lighthouse | Beloved - Lighthouse Catholic Media
 
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My former husband and I hardly fought and he abandoned me some years ago. Tension is going to happen within a normal marriage and yes, that means fighting and conflict. But conflict must be resolved. And couples must learn to forgive one another. If you desire a marriage partner, pray about it, but have healthy expectations. It's not all wine, sunshine and roses. But with God being in the centre it can be a peaceful, happy marriage. God bless
 
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