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I'm just wondering about everyone's take on this. I'm seriously considering switching to an English major in the fall, and I'd been thinking English literature, but I'd also love a creative writing major instead (Only problem being that it's not much good for anything besides fiction writing, though that's exactly what I want to do). So what does everyone think? Which do you think would be better for a writer, or do you think it's best to major in something completely different? (I'd considered journalism, but I'm not sure enough that's what I'd enjoy doing. I am starting to consider it again, though, so anyone's take on journalism majors would be appreciated too.)
 
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It really depends on you and what you want to do. Do you want to be a pure writer or would you like to have a job and write on the side? Personally, I'm going to major in education and Children's Ministry and put my writing to the side. If I wanted to be a pure writer, I'd would be a Lierature major of some kind. I personally believe a person who is well read makes a better writer than one who is well taught. That's of course if you dont mind being poor for a while, I'd recommend taking that journalism track and having a steady job. But if your idealistic enought to whatever it takes to become a writer, or just believe you have what it takes to make the money, take the English or the Literature.
 
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One of my early majors was English, and it was basically concealed history with the despairing reminder of no potentiality for financial income. Do something else; if you are a writer, you will never survive in this life without an inclination to write, which is founded on an incessant itch that will constantly bring to your consiousness a desire to, quite simply, create. I advise keeping a journal and changing to a major that can help with your writing, such as psychology or history, but also offers a good thing to "fall back" on during those possible droughts (Kafka went months and even years without putting anything creative during the otherwise fruitful moments of his life) that will keep you from financial security. I'm currently a psychology major and a philosophy minor, and am considering adding a journalism minor, or entirely superseding the philosophy minor for a journalism major. The catch with psychology is that you have to stay until masters level (whether you will do counselling, which isn't directly related with psychology, or hit up a general clinical degree that you can work on towards a PhD, though if you stop at a masters you'll still make a worthy income); but the ultimate plus with such a major is that it's so freaking interesting that you'll forget how long you have to go. Creative people generally are good at psychic observation (name me a good author that doesn't have insight into humanity) anyways.

Or maybe try some journalism courses; this is generally the most expedient and quickest route to writing full-time, and thus having a sort of aesthetic rebound in being more able to create given the technical demands that a journalism major may press you towards. But not all people can tolerate technical writing.

Whatever the case, I consider a writing major a way of sharpening your skills that could easily be done in your spare time, whether through steady self-application of writing (the journal is ideal), or the occassional fits of poetic passion when you write considerable amounts of prose. The writing major is a way of stealing your money, and the English major really is fundamentally the same, though it hides a nastier punch in being essentially a history major with not enough emphasis on the stories themselves (some classes read up to 16-20 novels a semester) -- and you need to soak your mind in the great authors.

My advice: take some courses in psychology and perhaps journalism, or something else that could give you a decent income and help your writing somehow, keep a journal, find a historical author whose methods of writing can be of inspiration to you (something hardcore, like Kafka, Dostoyevksy, Steinbeck, etc.), and use your fits of creative writing in an authentic setting, rather than being forced to press it out every week in four different writing classes and therefore possibly come to hate what was your first love. Now, I don't advise against taking classes in writing -- the very greatest class I have yet taken in college involved nothing more than reading great literature and academia and writing on it; my writing has quadrupled since then, in both fiction and non-fiction realms, and I can never come to fully realize how much it has impacted me even on an extra-literary level (i.e. philosophically, psychologically).

When you look at history, how many great writers have actually gone through with literature majors? Aside from those who didn't go to school whatsoever or quit early (Dickens, Tolstoy, Steinbeck, Shakespeare), not many at all. Aside from Vladimir Nabokov, I can't think of any.

Why am I so overly-meticulous and assiduous in giving my opinion? I've been down the road of poor majors now buried, and I find that English majors are good for those who have enough fantastic resolution to stick to it until PhD level, or those who are planning on teaching. If you want to write, feed your writing with knowledge about things relevant to writing; don't outdo yourself with forced writing, and the constant reminder that if you fail at this, there isn't much to do (this really can affect your writing, at a psychological level at least). I hope I'm not sounding too intense; if you feel convicted of an english major after all of this horrendous rambling, there's nothing wrong with giving it a try. But good literature, so far as I see it, is meant to remain at the freedom of man; not something forced.
 
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Yeah, I've been reconsidering the possibility of a journalism major lately (I'd considered before and decided against), and I'm still very interested in studying computer graphic design (forget the name of that one; there's a really good program for it not far from here). I'll think about it over the summer, but who knows, maybe I'll end up switching to a journalism major this fall after all. Thanks a lot for the long post, by the way. All of it's definitely helpful.
 
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I was completely disappointed when I started to study journalism: oh, at first glance it looked marvellous! More than 800 people had applied for a place, and I was among the 40 lucky ones who made it, so that alone was quite a boost for my self esteem.

But oh, what a HUGE disappointment it turned out to be! Learning in theory what the practice of a journalist might look like... riiiight! Dropping that subject ASAP was one of the best decisions in my life - especially since my University has closed that department down in the meantime, due to financial reasons.
Now I'm majoring in English literature and Finno-Ugric languages, two devastatingly "breadless arts", but hey: I love what I'm doing. And for me, that's what counts. I couldn't see myself as an economy or law student even if it was the only save route to a secure job at the top of the food chain. The mere thought is disgusting: turning into a soulless, money-grubbing servant of our outsourcing, exploitative corporations is the last thing that I'd want to do with my life. *shudder*
 
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I took my degree in English Literature with creative writing. The writing course at my uni was amazing - I was taught and had my writing critiqued by published authors every week and I learned so much. I would definitely recommend taking it as a course instead of going it totally alone, or worse, putting writing completely aside while you concentrate on college.

That said, you should do whatever's going to make you most confident about the future. If you're lukewarm about journalism, don't do it - you'll need to be enthusiastic, whatever you decide.
 
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Slina said:
Yeah, I've been reconsidering the possibility of a journalism major lately (I'd considered before and decided against), and I'm still very interested in studying computer graphic design

the print communications major that i am in involves about half of the writing aspect and half graphic design. i don't know if the school you attend offers something of this nature, but if it does, you could look into that.
 
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Thanks for your responses everyone. Yeah, I'm seriously thinking Journalism right now, though an eventual Graphic Design certification degree is sticking around in my mind, too. I'm not going to worry about that one just yet, though, since it wouldn't be an actual major. (And I'm currently taking a creative writing course at the community college, and absolutely loving it so far.)
 
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Consider a double-major. It may seem a bit up hill from where you stand now, but I'm sure you won't regret it. And trust me: I doubt anyone could undergo as many major changes as I. :)

There are actually a few interesting forums on the internet that deal with authors sharing their stories, or even actually writing stories (I was introduced only very recently to the concept of the "Wiki" from our blessed Mustaphile) -- see if this satisfies your writing itch. If so, consider another major with a bit more fervor than before. If not, a double-major just might be made for you. English majors ususally are pretty short and undemanding (especially if you love it).
 
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Hi...I like what Received said on the matter, but if your heart still says to go with lit or creative writing, do it. The best advice you can ever have regarding a major is do what you love and enjoy and you can't go wrong, because it will eventually lead you to a carreer that you love. You can do a double major, lit and creative writing, because you'll probably find that a lot of the required classes overlap. With a lit major, you'll probably only have to take a few extra classes to get a BA in creative writing too, so why not? You'll end up with 2 degrees, too.
 
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What valuable advice!

Barbara Sher and Barbara Smith wrote a book that's so useful for this subject--I usually consider Sher too snappy and ignorant of real life--I Could Do Anything if Only I Knew What it Was. It speaks of layering your life in a scheduled plan of several careers or goals, instead of being afraid that this year's college decision will set the whole direction of your life. It's very freeing. That goes along with 419gam's advice on the real world.

You will have so much more to write about when you work in a different field,
bringing obscure knowledge (city planning, whatever) and experiences into your stories. Write what you know, write what you hope to know. Take some writing courses to reinforce your technical knowledge.

Getting jobs --income in general--these days can be so difficult, it's a painful route to take only creative courses and try to pay your bills after. You might end up with no time to write, due to working two minimum wage jobs. Invest some of your schooling in a very reliable career, which will allow you the freedom and resources to pursue creative things on the weekends.

I'm not just trying to sound like your parents; I spent fifteen years advising adult students who needed to retrain, and heard story after story of people whose degree in the Arts (music, theatre, fine art, writing) led them downhill. The double major and print communications suggestions --those help employers see you differently, as more capable, flexible and less focused on "what you love."

What a wet blanket I am. If any of you senses inside that God has called you in a direction, take that as a hint to train yourself in that area in preparation for where He might bring you. God knows what you love.
 
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