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Majors in Physics

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Yep I'm majoring in physics. My suggestion is, if you can, to take AP level science and math classes in Highscool. That way you'll already have a little bit of a head start when you get to college.

My high school doesn't offer any AP classes. I learn the most at home with books and the internet. What do you plan on doing after you graduate?

I planned it and it didn't work out for me... Oh well.

Ah well these things happen. At least now it's easier to keep up with the progression of physics.
 
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Physics would be good, but calculus might even be better. I'm graduating in a couple of weeks (finally!) and I think a good math background helped me more than the physics class I took in high school. It's certainly very important to have a good understanding of the basics of physics, but any university's physics program as a general physics course that'll get you through that. If you can get a head start in the math, though, everything will be easier -- especially some of the later courses.
 
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Oh, to keep up with physics, I'd suggest regularly reading Scientific American and Physics Today. Sci Am is usually more interesting to me as it helps me to relate my physics education to many other areas of science. Physics today is just as easy to read, but it sticks to physics exclusively.

As for after university, I'll be going to grad school for a two-year master's degree in Optical Engineering. I consider it to be a sort of "technical" degree, though obviously more advanced than from a community college. Afterwards, I plan to work for a year or two and then evaluate where I'm going with my life. I tentatively plan to go to a good school for a PhD in Optics at the U of New Mexico or Rochester etc... but that's at least 3-4 years away. Right now, I'm excited for grad school, and I'm trying to get a simple summer job to help pay for all of it.
 
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TYVM for the advice Deamiter. Anyone I've talked to about physics says that mathematics, in particular calculus, is extremely important. I've reached the level of calculus in my independent studies, but do you have any good websites you could recommend for learning higher mathematics?
 
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Illuminatus said:
Deamiter, it sounds like you and I have the same realm of interest. I've been accepted to an honours program in photonics, although I haven't decided on it yet.

Sounds like an excellent opportunity. Where would you like to take this career wise?
 
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Again, that's not decided either. I could go an engineering route in grad school, or a straight science route. Probably engineering. As is, I'm nowhere near decided on what university to go to, or the program. I'm also highly interested in astronomy, and nanoscience.
 
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Illuminatus said:
Again, that's not decided either. I could go an engineering route in grad school, or a straight science route. Probably engineering. As is, I'm nowhere near decided on what university to go to, or the program. I'm also highly interested in astronomy, and nanoscience.
We do sound quite similar! I would recommend a four-year degree in physics, or at least in engineering at a school with an advanced physics program. I've found that the broader background I've received with a B.S. in Physics is very nice.

It's very easy to specialize after a B.S. (and in my case, it's only two more years until I'm well qualified to go into industry if that's what I decide to do) but an engineering degree limits your mobility. Of course, you'd be more marketable right after your bachelor's degree, but you're probably going to go for higher education anyway, so why limit yourself?

There are also some really wonderful engineering degrees -- just look for programs that are more physics based than industry based. A first degree in photonics would be VERY interesting to me, but it somewhat limits where you can go afterwards.
 
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Yamialpha said:
but do you have any good websites you could recommend for learning higher mathematics?

No but I do have a textbook I would highly suggest.

Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences, by Mary L. Boas. If you can complete that text, you have all the math necessary for undergraduate physics. You'll learn more in your classes, but it will be easy with that text behind you.
 
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Locrian said:
No but I do have a textbook I would highly suggest.

Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences, by Mary L. Boas. If you can complete that text, you have all the math necessary for undergraduate physics. You'll learn more in your classes, but it will be easy with that text behind you.

Where could I purchase it?
 
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Right now on half.com it's going for $54.00:
http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1446916&domain_id=1856&meta_id=1
On ebay, there's a version available via buy it now (not an auction) for $35.00:
http://product.ebay.com/Mathematica...ooZ1QQfsopZ3QQfvcsZ1388QQsascsZ2QQsoprZ975152

This is a good time to get text books. End of the school year -- more people looking to sell than those looking to buy.

At the same time, don't be too discouraged if you don't understand it all, or can't bring yourself to concentrate on the whole thing. This math is necessary, but you're going to take the class at some point anyway, and physics would be pointless if it weren't fun!
 
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Deamiter said:
We do sound quite similar! I would recommend a four-year degree in physics, or at least in engineering at a school with an advanced physics program. I've found that the broader background I've received with a B.S. in Physics is very nice.

It's very easy to specialize after a B.S. (and in my case, it's only two more years until I'm well qualified to go into industry if that's what I decide to do) but an engineering degree limits your mobility. Of course, you'd be more marketable right after your bachelor's degree, but you're probably going to go for higher education anyway, so why limit yourself?

There are also some really wonderful engineering degrees -- just look for programs that are more physics based than industry based. A first degree in photonics would be VERY interesting to me, but it somewhat limits where you can go afterwards.

I've considered engineering quite a bit, but in the end, I want the flexibility of a B.Sc instead. The interesting thing about the photonics program, (It's at Wilfrid Laurier, if you feel like looking up the program), is that it's about halfway in between pure science and engineering. It's heavily oriented towards pure physics on the science side, but there's also a large component of digital electronics, as well. Really, my biggest problem is deciding what to go in to - I'm interested in far too many things, and they all seem to require specialization (On the science side, I'm looking primarily at optics/photonics, astrophysics, and nanoscience). In the end, it'll depend on what university offers I get. Universities just got marks last Friday, and I've already received offers from Laurier and McMaster. (Mac has both astrophysics and nanoscience)

Mind if I ask you some questions? You're a Canuck, did you go to school in Canada? And what made you go into optics?
 
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but do you have any good websites you could recommend for learning higher mathematics?
Jack Crenshaw, and George E. Hrabovsky do a great job on with web articles. While the columns are short, the concepts they present are powerful. If you google either one of those names, it will lead you to the right places. I do agree with the book recommendation. Often times articles on specific methods without the appropriate background will serve as a source of frustration. At least with a text, you can follow in along from start to finish instead of jumping into the middle.

Ron
 
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