Mainline Denomination Fully Capitulates, Alters Logo to Support LGBT 'Pride'

[The Liturgist]

Leaving aside the matter of sexual immorality, realize the church has just created a logo rendering tribute to the deadliest of the deadly sins. Might as well get on with it and design an Envy logo, a Wrath logo and a Sloth logo while they’re at it…

Indeed, that’s the elephant in the room here. Pride has such a deservedly bad reputation because it is among other things a common stumbling block of monastics. The monk who has triumphed over his other passions will frequently suffer a demonic attack which is intended to induce pride, and unless the monk can remain humble through fervent prayer, the monk will, in a best case scenario, be humbled through the action of divine grace, which is one benefit of cenobitic monasteries, but when that fails, or if the monastic has inadvisably become a solitary or idiorythmic monk without adequate formation, or lacks good direction and pastoral care within the monastery, many suicides and accidental deaths have resulted, because monks can fall into spiritual delusion, which in Eastern Orthodoxy we call prelest.

For example, there are several recorded examples of monks who either successfully hurled themselves off of cliffs because, due to prelest, they had been deceived into believing that angels were waiting to carry them aloft into heaven, or who were stopped from doing this at the last possible moment by some of their brethren.

 

[The Liturgist]

That’s a biological determination. Potential life prior to fertilization. Actual life after fertilization.

All Protestants agreed with Catholics prior to the 1930 Anglican Lambeth Conference which made a tiny opening for contraception. Tiny but whole bus loads of Protestant denominations drove through it. Now it’s normal. And all the rationalization is normal except that rationalizing it isn’t even bothered with any more.

Also, for that matter, historically, Protestants and Roman Catholics agreed with the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and the Assyrian Church of the East that cremation is absolutely unacceptable. And now there are Episcopal churches with columbaria, even among the conservative, traditional parishes.

Indeed, in the case of St. Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church, who really picked the wrong patron saint considering that St. Gregory and his brother St. Basil the Great were among the relatively small number of Patristic figures who actually had to write canons expressly forbidding same-sex relationships (apparently this was a problem in Asia Minor at the time), has in their liturgy as far as funerals are concerned provision only for cremation, and their cremation liturgy involves placing the urn in a Shinto shrine. I really wish I was kidding about this, but I’m not. They also wrote an Anaphora (Eucharistic prayer) “of Cain”, as in the son of Adam who murdered his brother Abel, and painted icons of non-Christians on their ceiling including the 18th century Kangxi Emperor, who made Christianity illegal in China under penalty of death due to the opposition of the Dominicans to Confucian ancestor worship.

 

[PloverWing]

Leaving aside the matter of sexual immorality, realize the church has just created a logo rendering tribute to the deadliest of the deadly sins. Might as well get on with it and design an Envy logo, a Wrath logo and a Sloth logo while they’re at it…

It's not "pride" in the sense of conceit or hubris. It's "pride" in the sense of being unashamed, of being happy with who you are.

 

[The Liturgist]

Do ACNA and Continuing Anglican churches use the Episcopal Church shield as their logo? They're welcome to, I guess, but it seems that it would lead to confusion for visitors who are looking for churches that are/are not inclusive of women or gay people. The logos I've seen for the non-Episcopal Anglican churches have been subtly different from the Episcopal shield, but maybe I've missed some.

I have addressed this question and the preceding post in an existing thread I posted in Denomination Specific Theology, because it was impossible for me to reply to your posts in this forum due to the SOP. Additionally, members concerned about the views of the Episcopal Church and the traditional Anglican Churches more generally I would invite to Denomination Specific Theology to discuss the matter, since that forum exists to debate the views of denominations. This might be a good idea concerning pride as well.

 

[Michie]

I have addressed this question and the preceding post in an existing thread I posted in Denomination Specific Theology, because it was impossible for me to reply to your posts in this forum due to the SOP. Additionally, members concerned about the views of the Episcopal Church and the traditional Anglican Churches more generally I would invite to Denomination Specific Theology to discuss the matter, since that forum exists to debate the views of denominations. This might be a good idea concerning pride as well.

At your suggestion, I requested the thread be moved.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

It's not "pride" in the sense of conceit or hubris.

Yes, I think it's clear that's exactly what it is.