"exprain"? You are doing a bad impersonation of a Chinese trying to speak English?
You seemed so certain that "heaven" had to be a physical place within the universe: somewhere "above the clouds" or on another planet. So "heaven" never made sense to you partly because you couldn't find a place to put it.
It apparently never occurred to you that Christian theology says that God is
outside the universe. We are confined to spacetime, but God is not. Therefore "heaven" could also be outside spacetime. Problem solved for Christians.
But it also occurred to me that M Theory (String Theory) has several extra dimensions other than the 4 we experience as spacetime. So, couldn't you put "heaven" in one or more of those extra dimensions?
Look, I don't care that "heaven" doesn't make sense to you. I don't care that you don't believe it. But, when you start putting out what seem to you to be excellent reasons for your belief, reasons that you think can't be answered, at that point you are trying to convert me. You (and I) find AV's efforts to convert you to be objectionable. Is it so difficult to imagine that I might find your efforts to convert Christians to be equally objectionable?
The technical term is "Chinglish", its more like Japanese really, but its hard to write a Chinese accent.
You seemed so certain that "heaven" had to be a physical place
Not really; something nonexistent doesnt have to be material. I believe there is a long xtian tradition that it is physical; but maybe not.
Maybe Juv would like to say what 20th century discoveries he was referring to, and then he would seem reasonable, for perhaps the first time.
No place to put heaven seems to me like among the least reasons to disbelieve it. Lack of any positive evidence seems a better one.
It apparently never occurred to you that Christian theology says that God is outside the universe
Now, usually YOU are pretty reasonable, but you are coming up with things that you say are apparent, tho they are facts not in evidence. and, not facts at all.
Christians say such a variety of things, but yes, I certainly have heard it suggested that "god' would be outside the universe.
Problem solved for Christians.
Seems a bit facile, compared to you usual standards.
But it also occurred to me that M Theory (String Theory) has several extra dimensions other than the 4 we experience as spacetime. So, couldn't you put "heaven" in one or more of those extra dimension
I guess so. These things are so far beyond anyone's ken! Which seems to me one of a good many reasons not to be assuming that we have detected the key to all reality; "god".
But, when you start putting out what seem to you to be excellent reasons for your belief, reasons that you think can't be answered, at that point you are trying to convert me.
Again, you seem off your feed; you usually do so much better than that.
I asked because I wanted to know how you figure it; unlike that other person, you have thoughtful informed things to say.
you gave a pretty decent answer there, tho nothing I didnt think of myself.
And then you mess ti up with the utterly odd notion that I'd try to convert you, which i wouldnt for a second try that. Seriously here, when you concoct things out of thin air, it does nothing for your credibility in other areas..
I was actually just asking you what you thought about the topic, not what you think of me.
