Madagascar and Australia, a question for creationists.

[JD16]

QV this thread please:
I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have ... there.

I'll pass, I take your word for it, you can be anything you want to be k?
I've had enough crazy for one day thanks lolz

 

[AV1611VET]

I'll pass, I take your word for it, you can be anything you want to be k?
I 've had enough crazy for one day thanks lolz

Suit yourself.

At least I made an effort to understand bottlenecks.

It's easier to think something's crazy, than to try and understand it, isn't it?

 

[JD16]

Suit yourself.

At least I made an effort to understand bottlenecks.

It's easier to think something's crazy, than to try and understand it, isn't it?

Dude, chillz alrite? Don't take everything personally, most ppl think I'm crazy too, and they're not far off k? peace

 

[AV1611VET]

Dude, chillz alrite? Don't take everything personally, most ppl think I'm crazy too, and they're not far off k? peace

 

[JD16]

Meaning, I was just mucking around wit ya, thats all buddy

 

[Colter]

I must say that explains nothing, it's obvious you don't know what a spirit is but you are not alone because no one does,
it's just a word (like supernatural) believers use without knowing what it actually means.

Of coarse you would say that, it's you who doesn't know what spirit is. If and when you experience ego deflation at depth enough to experience spirit, then you will understand. Those of us who have experienced spirit need not define it to each other.

 

[The Stamp]

What's that have to do with anything?

Where did I used to say it went?

Never mind it's not important.

 

[The Stamp]

Of coarse you would say that, it's you who doesn't know what spirit is. If and when you experience ego deflation at depth enough to experience spirit, then you will understand. Those of us who have experienced spirit need not define it to each other.

Then that's OK then, no one knows and no one cares.

 

[Colter]

Then that's OK then, no one knows and no one cares.

Yea, we know and we care, it's you who doesn't care. Indifference is an easier, softer way.

 

[AV1611VET]

Meaning, I was just mucking around wit ya, thats all buddy

Kay-o, my friend! Not a problem!

 

[pat34lee]

So you accept Schweitzer's research when she finds 'soft' tissue because you think it confirms your outlandish ideas, yet you reject her explaination because it doesn't?

I accept the first because it is obviously there. I reject the second because it goes against everything we see in nature. How do you propose proving that iron will protect soft tissue over time? Bury some samples and test them every thousand years or so for the next 150 million years?

 

[pat34lee]

Based on your responses here I doubt you ever managed to finish a basic biology class.

I don't mind a little ribbing, but I'm about ready to start reporting those who can't stick to the issue and attack me personally instead.

 

[pitabread]

I don't mind a little ribbing, but I'm about ready to start reporting those who can't stick to the issue and attack me personally instead.

In all seriousness though, how do you feel you represent creationism?

The reason I say this is because in my experience (and this is after debating creationists for years), I find that creationists, on average, know very little about evolutionary biology. This isn't meant to be insulting; it's just the way things are. I find this is especially the case with those who appear to have been home-schooled where likely everything they've been told about evolutionary science is coming only from creationist sources.

What I've never understood is why creationists think this this okay. I mean, if you actively declare a branch of science to be false, but understand little about it, don't you see the inherent problem with that?

For example, earlier you rattled off a bunch of questions which included "Why is there no half-evolved anything anywhere?" If you understood even the basics of evolutionary biology, you'd know that that question is inherently nonsensical. But when I didn't play your game, you still opted to self-declare victory. Okay, so you think you "won". And?

What's the end goal here? What do you think you're accomplishing?

 

[The Stamp]

Yea, we know and we care.

That's just it you don't know or care you just tell yourself you do, why can't you tell others what a spirit is or what supernatural means? because no one ever told you what they meant that's why, you heard the words but didn't know what they meant and you either didn't ask or were told not to ask because the people who spoke the words to you didn't know either.

 

[Colter]

That's just it you don't know or care you just tell yourself you do, why can't you tell others what a spirit is or what supernatural means? because no one ever told you what they meant that's why, you heard the words but didn't know what they meant and you either didn't ask or were told not to ask because the people who spoke the words to you didn't know either.

I'm born of the spirit, I've been having spiritual experiences all of my life. You seem to be projecting your own experiences, or lack of experience onto me. If you truly desired to find God then you will need to do the work yourself instead of hiding behind the excuse that others can't show color to a temporarily blind person.

And supernatural means transcendent of the natural, material world. To be concious and creative is transcendent. We are children of the living God.


"To assume that the universe can be known, that it is intelligible, is to assume that the universe is mind made and personality managed. Man's mind can only perceive the mind phenomena of other minds, be they human or superhuman. If man's personality can experience the universe, there is a divine mind and an actual personality somewhere concealed in that universe." UB 1955

 

[The Stamp]

I'm born of the spirit, I've been having spiritual experiences all of my life.

What does that even mean? I have been having experiences all of my life and I have never once put them down to an entity, they are simply the same feelings everyone has from time to time when they listen to good music or see a colourful sunset.

 

[Skreeper]

I don't mind a little ribbing, but I'm about ready to start reporting those who can't stick to the issue and attack me personally instead.

It was just an observation. The issue is that you shouldn't discuss evolution when you don't even grasp the basics.
If you can demonstrate that you understand evolution then we can have a productive discussion about it.

 

[Colter]

What does that even mean? I have been having experiences all of my life and I have never once put them down to an entity, they are simply the same feelings everyone has from time to time when they listen to good music or see a colourful sunset.

Nicodemus said the same thing to Jesus.

If and when you are born of the spirit, you will know.

 

[JD16]

If and when you are born of the spirit, you will know.

Is that the same thing when Christians says that they are "born again Christians"? Never understood what's that born again thing means....

 

[AV1611VET]

Is that the same thing when Christians says that they are "born again Christians"? Never understood what's that born again thing means....

We have a saying:

Born once, die twice. *
Born twice, die once. **

* Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

** Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: