Macroevolution:

[lesliedellow]

You don't want to go there.

CIPRES | Outreach

 

[dmmesdale]

Next time you visit your doctor, ask them how the theory has helped them practice medicine.

It has not helped them at all. Medicine goes along fine without blind watchmaker and common descent.

They are trying to increase evolution in medical training by force. Not by persuasion. By applying top down pressure thru licensing and funding agencies. It is useless to already overburdened medical students who have real things to learn.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

CIPRES | Outreach

I like it. Imagine a doctor reciting that to you.

OldWiseGuy: "Doctor, what about this evolution stuff?

Doctor: "Well OldWiseGuy, I'm glad you asked, you see,

A reconstructed phylogenetic tree guides our interpretation of the evolution of organismal characteristics, indicating in what lineages traits arose and under what circumstances, thus playing a vital role in studies of adaptation and evolutionary constraints. Patterns of divergence of species lineages indicated by the phylogeny inform us of the dynamics of speciation and extinction, the forces that generate and reduce biodiversity, including the assembly and maintenance of species in ecological communities."

(OldWiseGuy begins to nod off.)

"Phylogeny informs far more than evolutionary biology, however. The evolutionary histories of genes bear the marks of the functional demands to which they have been subjected, thus allowing phylogenetic analysis to elucidate functional relationships within living cells. For instance, pharmaceutical companies are increasingly using phylogenetic analyses to make functional predictions from sequence data banks of gene families, and applying this information in the development of vaccines and antimicrobials. Molecular biologists use phylogenies to determine the relevance of model organisms for research in such diverse fields as agriculture and human health."

(Doctor pokes OldWiseGuy awake.)

"Finally, phylogenetic reconstruction is used well beyond the boundaries of biology and biomedicine: it is a crucial tool in forensic studies (for instance in the HIV murder trial and recent work on the anthrax terrorist attacks), in security applications for networks and computers (such as artificial immune systems for computers), and in a variety of disciplines such as historical linguistics."

OldWiseGuy: "Thanks Doc (yawn), now I understand."

 

[bhsmte]

It has not helped them at all. Medicine goes along fine without blind watchmaker and common descent.

They are trying to increase evolution in medical training by force. Not by persuasion. By applying top down pressure thru licensing and funding agencies. It is useless to already overburdened medical students who have real things to learn.

Ok, whatever you say.

 

[lesliedellow]

That's what you got, mock satire?

Creationists get no more mockery than they deserve.

 

[mark kennedy]

Creationists get no more mockery than they deserve.

Oh for crying out loud, Creationists are a different worldview nothing more. This indignation role is hardly justified. The culture wars are over, the Darwinians won and still this endless stream of derision that has nothing to do with science or creation. I think your just bored.

 

[mark kennedy]

It has not helped them at all. Medicine goes along fine without blind watchmaker and common descent.

They are trying to increase evolution in medical training by force. Not by persuasion. By applying top down pressure thru licensing and funding agencies. It is useless to already overburdened medical students who have real things to learn.

Medical science does just fine as long as it confines itself to natural phenomenon. The intellectual questions regarding origins are metaphysics, something the inductive approach of natural science has nothing to contribute.

 

[pitabread]

OldWiseGuy: "Thanks Doc, now I understand."

Phylogenetic tree:

It's the thing that creationists want to pretend is fiction, yet it's the very thing that has real-world application.

There is a major gap between the reality of modern evolutionary biology and what creationists choose to believe about modern evolutionary biology.

 

[lesliedellow]

Oh for crying out loud, Creationists are a different worldview nothing more.

It is a worldview held together by obscurantism, falsehoods and just plain ignorance.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Phylogenetic tree:

It's the thing that creationists want to pretend is fiction, yet it's the very thing that has real-world application.

There is a major gap between the reality of modern evolutionary biology and what creationists choose to believe about modern evolutionary biology.

It just seems to me that God made everything out of basically the same stuff, to live in pretty much the same environment. Seems like a good overall design.

 

[Faith Alone 1 Cor 15:1-4]

Phylogenetic tree:

It's the thing that creationists want to pretend is fiction, yet it's the very thing that has real-world application.

There is a major gap between the reality of modern evolutionary biology and what creationists choose to believe about modern evolutionary biology.

Where can i find half dog half cat ,it was nice cartoon when i was child , i would like to have something like that to remind me about good old times .

 

[OldWiseGuy]

It is a worldview held together by obscurantism, falsehoods and just plain ignorance.

Works for me.

 

[pitabread]

It just seems to me that God made everything out of basically the same stuff, to live in pretty much the same environment. Seems like a good design.

If species on Earth were independently designed, they were designed to appear as though they share common ancestry.

I wonder why that is...

 

[pitabread]

Where can i find half dog half cat

Ancient Arboreal Mammal Discovered at Root of Carnivore Family Tree

 

[Faith Alone 1 Cor 15:1-4]

I think like , why did these animals stop evolving and all are fully evolved all at the same time as we live right now , shouldn't there be leftovers from animals that evolved still alive ? Or why there are no new species evolving now into for example better human beings ?

 

[lesliedellow]

Where can i find half dog half cat ,it was nice cartoon when i was child , i would like to have something like that to remind me about good old times .

So here we have yet another creationist, who doesn't even know what the theory he presumes to criticise says. Now isn't that a nice change?

 

[pitabread]

I think like , why did these animals stop evolving and all are fully evolved all at the same time as we live right now , shouldn't there be leftovers from animals that evolved still alive ? Or why there are no new species evolving now into for example better human beings ?

Evolution never stops. It's an ongoing process.

 

[Faith Alone 1 Cor 15:1-4]

Evolution never stops. It's an ongoing process.

Where can i purchase my doggo-cat then?

 

[bhsmte]

Works for me.

At the end of the day, that is all that matters. I just wouldn't be shocked, if there is a whole bunch of other Christians and non Christians, that do accept well evidenced science.

 

[pitabread]

Where can i purchase my doggo-cat then?

First, invent a time machine. Then travel about 50 million years into the past.

Then find a pet store.