Macroevolution:

[AV1611VET]

Since I do not read everything in the Bible as history, your problems are not mine.

Then your chatter don't matter.

I'm the only one who answered his questions.

If you have better answers ... or worse even ... let's see them.

 

[lesliedellow]

Then your chatter don't matter.

And neither does your made up stuff, when it has no scientific nor biblical basis. But then, so called "Bible believers" are quite good at making stuff up.

 

[AV1611VET]

And neither does your made up stuff, when it has no scientific nor biblical basis. But then, so called "Bible believers" are quite good at making stuff up.

Acts 8 is made up? Acts 8 constitutes "no Biblical basis"? Since when?

 

[lesliedellow]

Acts 8 is made up? Acts 8 constitutes "no Biblical basis"? Since when?

Ah yes. I should have remembered that Acts 8 has a lot to say about super continents and the teleportation of animals after the Flood.

Silly old me. How could I have forgotten that?

 

[lesliedellow]

Double post.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ah yes. I should have remembered that Acts 8 has a lot to say about super continents and the teleportation of animals after the Flood.

Silly old me. How could I have forgotten that?

Good grief.

Would you like me to answer his questions again, and this time salt my answers with Scripture?

You won't even answer them, let alone provide Scripture.

But I will.

 

[AV1611VET]

Double post.

Anyone can sit on the sidelines and not answer questions, yet ridicule those that do, can't they?

 

[lesliedellow]

Good grief.

Would you like me to answer his questions again, and this time salt my answers with Scripture?

IF you have anything other than hogwash, why didn't you supply it the first time?

 

[AV1611VET]

IF you have anything other than hogwash, why didn't you supply it the first time?

Why didn't you?

Doesn't your church teach you anything besides TULIPs?

If so, then post your answers.

 

[lesliedellow]

Why didn't you?

Doesn't your church teach you anything besides TULIPs?

If so, then post your answers.

If it tried to "teach" me that the Earth was created in six days, I would find another church.

 

[Jimmy D]

Doesn't your church teach you anything besides TULIPs?

What are they?

 

[Tanj]

What are they?

Flowers that come from Amsterdam. lol. TULIP is an acronym for Calvinist no-free will belief

Total depravity (man can not choose to be good)
Unconditional Election (God chooses who God chooses, deal with it)
Limited Atonement (Christ died for the sins of the saved, not everyone)
Irresistible Grace (If God chooses you, you don't get to say no)
Perseverance of the Saints (Once saved, always saved)

 

[lesliedellow]

What are they?

TULIP is an acronym for:

Total depravity of man
Unconditional election
Limited atonement
Irresistable grace
Perseverence of the saints

It is supposed to summarise the doctrinal position of Calvinism

 

[Jimmy D]

Ah OK, thanks chaps.

 

[Kylie]

Um ... I missed the answers in there somewhere.

Is that a fancy way of saying NO, you don't have answers?

No, it is a way of describing the process by which we can get the answers. it's called the scientific method, AV. You should learn what it is.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it is a way of describing the process by which we can get the answers. it's called the scientific method, AV. You should learn what it is.

Then by all means, Kylie, employ this scientific method and answer his questions with better answers than I gave.

Need the questions again? here they are:

Question: When the god created animals (fully formed) did the god just provide two of each (one male, one female) in the entire world, just to get the ball rolling, or did the god create several of them, spread over the world?
When the flood came, how did Noah gather these creatures up, and how did they then make it back to their homelands after the flood?

And here are my answers again:

1. I don't really know. I believe He created one male and one female of each kind, then blessed them with a type of fertility that would make Nadya Suleman (Octomom) envious; while at the same time leaving inbreed depression scratching its head.

2. When the Flood came, the land consisted of one giant supercontinent at one time, and I believe God brought the animals to the Ark.

3. After the Flood, I believe the animals were teleported to their respective niches, much like Philip was teleported to Azotus in Acts 8.

Now ... let's see better answers, compliments of the scientific method ... instead of no answers, accompanied by ridicule of my answers.

 

[xianghua]

However, if evolution is false and if god creation is true, then isolated islands wouldn't have been a problem. The god could have created these predators on these isolated islands, no problem.

so if we will find a (old) fossil of a placental mammal in australia evolution will be false?

 

[xianghua]

No, because we know for a fact cars don't reproduce and don't have genetic material upon which mutations can occur.

true. so in this case below you will claim that they indeed evolved from a common descent?:

I disagree with your assertion that I would agree that "they all share a common eye" when I literally said that eyes evolved independently hundreds of times.

i refer to the types of eyes that indeed suppose to share a common eye.

 

[xianghua]

For that criteria to be met you need to show that the Alx3 sequence does not follow that phylogeny.

this isnt what you said here:

"If there were multiple such examples for homologous traits, this would falsify evolution"

and we indeed found homologous genes that are missing from some species between those that do share those genes.

 

[Loudmouth]

this isnt what you said here:

"If there were multiple such examples for homologous traits, this would falsify evolution"

I also gave an example of a mammal with a jellyfish gene with an identical sequence as that found in the jellyfish. When referring to genes, not features, you need to compare the sequence.