Macro verses Micro evelution

[The Barbarian]

I think they've confused haeckel's drawings with the entire field of embryology.

Yes, that seems to have happened to a lot of them.

 

[Trev T]

What is the purpose of bringing evolution into the Bible? To go along with liberal elitists? Are you so smart you believe like the Pope that "God isn't a magician."? Evolution is infinitely impossible. The process leading to today, without God's hand, is ridiculous to believe. From Africa to today, from a walking fish that could reproduce with itself, to the fruition of everything perfectly across the globe? It's insanity.

 

[MittenMaven]

What is the purpose of bringing evolution into the Bible? To go along with liberal elitists? Are you so smart you believe like the Pope that "God isn't a magician."? Evolution is infinitely impossible. The process leading to today, without God's hand, is ridiculous to believe. From Africa to today, from a walking fish that could reproduce with itself, to the fruition of everything perfectly across the globe? It's insanity.

You cite no evidence that evolution is impossible. Life exists so yes evolution is possible! Myriad of transitional forms and massive genetic evidence speak to the truth of evolutionary science. If you want to talk statistical possibilities how about the belief in a supernatural being that has no beginning that sent his triune self to die and be raised from the dead. Now that truly sounds like a statistical impossibly and yet we believe because of the evidence and because of experience. I don’t believe because the “Bible says it is true”. That is illogical thinking.

Why would God deceive us and create man with chromosome number two that looks just like two ape chromosomes? Is God that cruel to create the fossil record of the evidence of evolution of the inner ear and then laugh at us when we believe it?

Why would God create man so that 15 percent of them have no palmaris longus muscle? The Palmaris longus muscle is useful in apes but is a remnant in humans.

Why did God screw up the design of the recurrent laryngeal nerve so badly that it has a massive circuitous route?

why do human embryos have Gill slits and tails?

why don’t Creationists on here want to engage in a scientific debate on the merits of evolution vs special creation. They continue to cite their faith and belief and use circular reasoning.

can any creationist answer the above questions I have posed?

The God of the special creationist is the god of the flat earth and the 6000 year old earth. He is a small human constructed God. The Real God of the Bible is an infinite being who lives outside of time and has been creating for infinite time. Probably creating many other worlds and beings. Your God is trapped in a geocentric box. My God is the God of the Bible and of the infinite universe. You are not special. God has the power to create however he will.

 

[loveofourlord]

What is the purpose of bringing evolution into the Bible? To go along with liberal elitists? Are you so smart you believe like the Pope that "God isn't a magician."? Evolution is infinitely impossible. The process leading to today, without God's hand, is ridiculous to believe. From Africa to today, from a walking fish that could reproduce with itself, to the fruition of everything perfectly across the globe? It's insanity.

if you have less understanding of evolution then a 3rd grader then sure it looks like insanity. The purpose is that evolution is reality. I actually understand evolution and not the nonsense creationists call evolution.

 

[Joyous Song]

What is the purpose of bringing evolution into the Bible? To go along with liberal elitists? Are you so smart you believe like the Pope that "God isn't a magician."? Evolution is infinitely impossible. The process leading to today, without God's hand, is ridiculous to believe. From Africa to today, from a walking fish that could reproduce with itself, to the fruition of everything perfectly across the globe? It's insanity.

Tev T: What is the purpose of bringing evolution into the Bible?

JS: this is a Christian message board. And as non-christian are here but I wrote that for those Christians who hold to macro-evolution. The Bible is clear, “each in its own kind” species or group He created. Period.

Tev T: To go along with liberal elitist?

JS: Last I checked most in that group believed either alternate being from a different universe or chance created us from a fish like ancestor. Their are some like MattinMaven who are right to want to believe in the THEORY of Evolution (Macro) saying G-d could have chosen this method to create everything. That’s a valid theory if they can explain “each in its own kind” as regards His creation in light of this acceptance. This is because we have one additional source of truth, the Word.

Tev T: Are you so smart you think like the pope that “G-d isn’t a magician”?

JS: I do not understand this statement. Can I have the entire quote from Pope Francis so I can better understand how you are trying to insult me?

Tev T: Evolution is infinitely possible.

JS: True if I misunderstand Genesis 1 but then being possible defines a theory not fact! Why do we teach theory as fact! Yes they have plenty of data to micro evolution, but all the data on macro is full of missing links and gaps. It should never have moved from a hypothesis to theory.

Tev T: The process leading to today, without G-d’s hand is ridiculous to believe. From Africa to today, from a walking fish that could reproduce with itself, to the fruition of everything perfect across the globe? Its insanity.

JS: This is a little harsh. Though I agree some theories the godless have created since chance was proven chancy (its an astronomical chance) seem a bit outlandish but then we are not in their shoes. Their might be a logical reason they came up with those hypothesis but even if not you got to give them something creativity.

So as said, my argument with the macro-evolution crowd is that no hypotheses has moved to theory given a sorted past (Hitler’ finial solution).

 

[Joyous Song]

You cite no evidence that evolution is impossible. Life exists so yes evolution is possible! Myriad of transitional forms and massive genetic evidence speak to the truth of evolutionary science. If you want to talk statistical possibilities how about the belief in a supernatural being that has no beginning that sent his triune self to die and be raised from the dead. Now that truly sounds like a statistical impossibly and yet we believe because of the evidence and because of experience. I don’t believe because the “Bible says it is true”. That is illogical thinking.

Why would God deceive us and create man with chromosome number two that looks just like two ape chromosomes? Is God that cruel to create the fossil record of the evidence of evolution of the inner ear and then laugh at us when we believe it?

Why would God create man so that 15 percent of them have no palmaris longus muscle? The Palmaris longus muscle is useful in apes but is a remnant in humans.

Why did God screw up the design of the recurrent laryngeal nerve so badly that it has a massive circuitous route?

why do human embryos have Gill slits and tails?

why don’t Creationists on here want to engage in a scientific debate on the merits of evolution vs special creation. They continue to cite their faith and belief and use circular reasoning.

can any creationist answer the above questions I have posed?

The God of the special creationist is the god of the flat earth and the 6000 year old earth. He is a small human constructed God. The Real God of the Bible is an infinite being who lives outside of time and has been creating for infinite time. Probably creating many other worlds and beings. Your God is trapped in a geocentric box. My God is the God of the Bible and of the infinite universe. You are not special. God has the power to create however he will.

MattinMaven: most of the evidence you reference, cells for example, supports micro-evolution not macro. Even much of that fossil record. I’d say all but I not as up to data on this as I was. Still, having “ape” gene can be logically explained without resorting to the belief in macro-evolution.

The chapter on the Niphilliem speaks of the children of G-d (Homo Sapien) looking on the woman of man (Neanderthal) as goodly. Likely children of rape were stronger and more powerful than early men. They wanted those kids.

So they took them for their wives and got power kids, and reduce the entire species life expectancy limited us to 126 years. This also gave us some gene that monkey’s share from this common ancestor. As for gills these might be simply the way to breathe in fluid, even embryonic fluid.

Now all these points are just a hypothesis drawn from a form of evidence I accept while keeping that other evidence also before me. I do not call it a theory because without Divine confirmation of the Bible this theory stands only with Christens who do not take the sons of men as angles, or who dismiss “in their own kind” as fable.

I believe both hypotheses are on weak ground myself. Angles because it drawn from a book not accepted as canon for two thousand years (Enoch) and whose interpenetration can not be confirmed; and Genesis being a fable because once that dogmatic argument is given, it tends to spreads spread, like Revelation as well dogma as regards Christ’s miracles...

 

[FaithT]

You cite no evidence that evolution is impossible. Life exists so yes evolution is possible! Myriad of transitional forms and massive genetic evidence speak to the truth of evolutionary science. If you want to talk statistical possibilities how about the belief in a supernatural being that has no beginning that sent his triune self to die and be raised from the dead. Now that truly sounds like a statistical impossibly and yet we believe because of the evidence and because of experience. I don’t believe because the “Bible says it is true”. That is illogical thinking.

Why would God deceive us and create man with chromosome number two that looks just like two ape chromosomes? Is God that cruel to create the fossil record of the evidence of evolution of the inner ear and then laugh at us when we believe it?

Why would God create man so that 15 percent of them have no palmaris longus muscle? The Palmaris longus muscle is useful in apes but is a remnant in humans.

Why did God screw up the design of the recurrent laryngeal nerve so badly that it has a massive circuitous route?

why do human embryos have Gill slits and tails?

why don’t Creationists on here want to engage in a scientific debate on the merits of evolution vs special creation. They continue to cite their faith and belief and use circular reasoning.

can any creationist answer the above questions I have posed?

The God of the special creationist is the god of the flat earth and the 6000 year old earth. He is a small human constructed God. The Real God of the Bible is an infinite being who lives outside of time and has been creating for infinite time. Probably creating many other worlds and beings. Your God is trapped in a geocentric box. My God is the God of the Bible and of the infinite universe. You are not special. God has the power to create however he will.

What denomination are you?