Lutheran scientists unite!

[Super Hotdog Salesman]

I tried to have an impact in a few places and failed because I lacked credibility. As a result, I'm trying again but in a more methodical manner that will hopefully achieve those credentials. It doesn't mean I'll succeed, but it's hard for me not to try. The problem is, things like this take a large dose of motivation, dedication, and determination. IOW, it takes a very long time. As such, I just don't have the bandwidth to take on any more.

It sounds like you have a lot more experience with this than me. I've come to some of the same conclusions. It will take significant time, work, and credentials to overcome the inertia on this issue. I've been doing tests and some strategizing of my own: writing letters and seeing what sort of responses I get, working on my education, and am planning on getting involved with writing articles for the Canadian Lutheran and a blog to get my name out there. I think those of us with the advantage of scientific expertise are obliged to stand up and together point out falsehood in some way as well as leadership's responsibility to listen to laymen with expertise they lack. It's good to hear others are doing what they can, and are having similar experiences. I've really appreciated your input on this, Resha.

Thinking and praying about it more is definitely wise advice. It's had for me to know if in the future I'm better off just leaving LCC because they bother my conscience so much with this, but at the same time, it is my home right now and I think is worth trying to help out. Conservative churches suffer enough of a scientific brain-drain already because of things like this.

 

[Resha Caner]

It sounds like you have a lot more experience with this than me.

... Well, I've more experience at being ineffective. I don't know if that's a good thing.

I've really appreciated your input on this, Resha.

Sure, I'm glad I could help.

Thinking and praying about it more is definitely wise advice. It's had for me to know if in the future I'm better off just leaving LCC because they bother my conscience so much with this, but at the same time, it is my home right now and I think is worth trying to help out. Conservative churches suffer enough of a scientific brain-drain already because of things like this.

I would encourage you to stay. If you go somewhere else, I think you'll find there is something to dislike in your new home ... sin and all that. I considered leaving the LCMS when I was in my 20s. One thing I considered was just that - no matter where I go I'll find something I don't like. It may seem an odd way to think of it, but I asked myself the question: Since I can't expect to find someone with exactly the same opinions I have, what would I rather have? People to my left (more liberal) or people to my right (more conservative)? I decided I would rather be around people who are more conservative than I am.

But we may be different in one thing. Evolution has never been a big issue for me. You seem to be taking this very personally ... which probably isn't something to discuss here.

 

[Tangible]

I used to struggle with this a lot too. Over the years it lost importance to me in the grand scheme of things.

I like Pr Bill Cwirla's take on the whole deal. Evolution is a tool for doing science. If you work in science, use your tools. When you're doing theology, however, you use a different set of tools, and you need not exceed scripture to do good theology. By faith we understand that God created the universe, and that Adam and Eve were real people.

As Lutherans, we don't need for everything to make sense to us, do we?

 

[Taom Ben Robert]

I'm an old earth creationist , however YEC is a valid belief , all that can be done is teach the truth , controversy or not .