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It gives insight to the vision of the person or lack thereof.Clem is Me said:Why do you ask?
ChristianCenturion said:It gives insight to the vision of the person or lack thereof.
A discussion for another thread perhaps, but the responding answer helps me decide how much time I invest in the discussion.
To a degree, I do too.Thibeault said:Thats what i like..I love reading what ppl have to say about a certain topic and i learn and think about it. It allow me to grow stronger with god
ChristianCenturion said:It gives insight to the vision of the person or lack thereof.
A discussion for another thread perhaps, but the responding answer helps me decide how much time I invest in the discussion.
Nope, I'm just a sinner saved by Grace that has seen and accepted the wisdom God offers to all.Clem is Me said:Well, aren't you superior.
ChristianCenturion said:Nope, I'm just a sinner saved by Grace that has seen and accepted the wisdom God offers to all.
In other words: God is superior.
I'm sure you are right and I must be confused...Clem is Me said:God didn't write all that about deciding what is worth your attention.
No problem, I do have an invested interest in being familiar with the scriptures.Clem is Me said:You are right, I am sorry.
Thibeault said:If lusting is such a sin, then why does everyone do it
The people Jesus was talking to were intimately familiar with the account of Job, Joseph, King David, etc. accounts of good and bad practices concerning lust. If you get an eye full and begin to lust, flee from it and/or look away. Simple.HouseApe said:No one has a choice to lust or not. If I see a pretty girl, boom, I lust. It's like being thirsty. I'm not given a choice. Morality plays in after the lust starts. When you decide what follow on action is appropriate.
So Clem is right. It is a good question. Jesus tells you not to lust in your heart. What He didn't tell you is that you can't help it. So maybe He had a little deeper point?
I guess it comes down to what is valued in that respect then...Clem is Me said:Maybe we should take another look at the origional question. If one believes that humans are natural creatures evolved from apelike ancestors and these from other mammals and so on, then lust is a natural survuval reflex to certain stimulus that less intelligent animals use to identify what is worth expending energy to pursue. One humans developed social interaction that included trade and bartering lust and a host of other insticts became negative and were termed "sin".
ChristianCenturion said:I guess it comes down to what is valued in that respect then...
Are we just animals
and the laws of nature that has allegedly brought us to where we are should have its respect - to which, let only the strong survive and eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Or are we more than just animals that are controlled by instinct and urges.
Perhaps a bit oversimplified or some may object to the either/or, but I see nothing compelling (if your ideology were true) to dictate that I should restrain myself for the benefit of the weak/weaker.
I disagree and I see (in that ideology) that that rational/plea is one 'from the weak'. There is no reason why the strong should sacrifice for the benefit of the weak by the Law of Nature - it is illogical, they are a drain on the community and serve no purpose other than sentimental or emotionalism.HouseApe said:The weak/weaker you refer to, I am sure, is of your species. By Clem's ideology (if I understand it), you maximize the survival rate of your species by restraining yourself for the benefit of the weak/weaker.
ChristianCenturion said:I disagree and I see (in that ideology) that that rational/plea is one 'from the weak'. There is no reason why the strong should sacrifice for the benefit of the weak by the Law of Nature - it is illogical, they are a drain on the community and serve no purpose other than sentimental or emotionalism.
To tie it back to the thread topic, I see no compelling reason under that ideology why I should curb my lusts or settle for only one mate just so Joe Drainonsociety can have a chance to feel good too or to further propagate his weaknesses in the human gene pool.
ChristianCenturion said:I disagree and I see (in that ideology) that that rational/plea is one 'from the weak'. There is no reason why the strong should sacrifice for the benefit of the weak by the Law of Nature - it is illogical, they are a drain on the community and serve no purpose other than sentimental or emotionalism.
To tie it back to the thread topic, I see no compelling reason under that ideology why I should curb my lusts or settle for only one mate just so Joe Drainonsociety can have a chance to feel good too or to further propagate his weaknesses in the human gene pool.
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