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Hello everyone I am new to Christian Forums. I would like to introduce myself my name is Andrew. I am writing this because I feel like a bad Christian, because the Devil still tempts me with pornography on occasion. I'm trying to live a better and more pure life, but I still get the urge to view pornography and touch on occasion. I repent when I do it, but I feel like I am only going to get so many strikes. So what am I to do? I'm a 25 year old single dad and I get urges like every other male. I just feel really guilty about mine. Could someone offer up some advice?
 

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God's love never falters even if we falter. His love remains for you<---!
He is faithful and true to you.
We are on a journey in life and no one is a super duper non-sinning Christian.
I would ask one thing from you. If you could read very carefully and think about what I'm going to say, it will help you tremendously.

If you are being driven, harassed or tormented and this causes compulsive behaviors which stops, reverses or slows down your spiritual growth or progress, then this is the work of evil spirits and they must be cast out in Jesus Name.

Here are a few things that a person can do to stay strong in the face of temptation:
1. Don't get near that temptation. Flee from it. Don't set yourself up. Don't let the enemy set you up. Analyze what is going on. Look for patterns that the enemy uses against you.

2. The devil can talk to us in our minds which sounds like our own voice wanting us to do bad things. Then we think it's us whose thinking bad things when it isn't really us.
The devil uses the power of suggestion and you have to immediately tell him to "peddle your peanuts somewhere else in Jesus Name."

3. Pray early in the mornings. Jesus prayed early and that set the tone and mood for the rest of the day. Praying daily is essential because that means you are in communication/relationship with God. To have a good relationship with someone we have to communicate with them.


4. Read your Bible daily and memorize verses. That way when the enemy tries something, you'll have the sword ready. Jesus did the same thing when the devil tempted Him. Jesus pulled out the sword (Word of God) and chopped up satan. We need to do the same.


5. You must stay active in the things of God and don't give in to the devils passivity.
Try not to stay alone because that's when the devil likes to hit us also.

6. Get closer to Jesus because He satisfies. That way your heart won't desire bad things. Your heart will change and His desires will become yours.


Here are some verses that will help you:
Isa 26:3
Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

Rom 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

2Cor 10:3-5
3.For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4. (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)
5. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Phil 4:8
Finally, brethren,whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Eph 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Eph 4:23
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

Col 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

2Cor 4:16
For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

You have to pray and read your Bible daily. It is food for your soul. If you don't feed your soul it will wither just as we don't feed our body.

We will slip up once in a while that's why we have 1John 1:9.

So here's where you begin. Go to the bathroom and kneel in front of the toilet with the lid down and put your elbows on the lid and put your hands together and pray.
Confess your sins to God (1John 1:9) and tell God that you want to turn from that stuff that keeps you from Him. Tell Him your other problems also and the weight of all of that will leave you. Confession to God cleanses the soul.
Then start doing 1-6 above everyday. You will have to get into a routine. You must stay in that routine even if you don't feel like doing it. The devil can mess with our feelings to draw us away and he can tell us it's useless. Don't give up. The devil wants us to give up. Get back up and keep on going.
The very fact that you posted means the Holy Spirit is working with you.

Don't tell God how big your storm is, tell the storm how big our God is.

Also, if you can, watch this video:
God's Chisel - YouTube - God's Chisel - The Skit Guys
Let me know what you think about the video and how it applies to your life.

Also, fellowshiping with other believers is crucial in our walk. No person is an island by themselves.

Praying for you in Jesus Name!!!
Thanks,
TexasTig
 
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Hello everyone I am new to Christian Forums. I would like to introduce myself my name is Andrew. I am writing this because I feel like a bad Christian, because the Devil still tempts me with pornography on occasion. I'm trying to live a better and more pure life, but I still get the urge to view pornography and touch on occasion. I repent when I do it, but I feel like I am only going to get so many strikes. So what am I to do? I'm a 25 year old single dad and I get urges like every other male. I just feel really guilty about mine. Could someone offer up some advice?

First of all, know that you aren't alone. Men have urges, it's as simple as that. God gave us those urges - if we didn't have them we would be unable to obey God's command to be fruitful and multiply.

The problem isn't the urges, it's the corruption of those urges. I say that simply because it's not sinful to desire a wife and if/when you have a wife it's not sinful to have desires for her and to act on those desires with her.

Where pornography is concerned it can be difficult to deal with the temptation once it started, so the best bet is to head things off before they begin. You'll probably know by now the times and places where you are most prone to temptation, so try and avoid them. If you struggle with late-night movies, see if you can unsubscribe or block those channels. If you struggle with internet porn set up your firewall or HOSTS file (for Windows) to either block the sites or reroute them somewhere else. Above all be aware that this is an area of weakness - once you start to get stronger against it avoid the alternative attacks which might take the form of "you're a strong Christian now, you don't need that internet blocker" or "you can resist the late-night movies, get that channel back so you can watch the Saturday afternoon movies" or similar.

Above all watch what you are thinking, and keep in prayer for the strength to overcome.

1Co 10:13 NKJV No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

2Co 10:5 NIV We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Php 4:13 NKJV I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
 
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Take one day at a time and get some inspirational friends that love God by their actions. Read the bible and pray daily. Get involved in a serious church. Its a life long lifestyle and you will know God more and more. True faith is demonstrated by actions. Feel free to email me.

Do you have the holy spirit? He will give you the power to live a christian life. Human effort alone can't do this.

One more thing-if you have porn -delete the website or pitch the book-surround yourself with uplifting things.
 
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You say you feel guilty afterward. Then ask if the short (and empty) pleasure you get from it is worth the horrible feeling afterward. For me, it wasn't. You and I are convinced already that it's wrong but still feel the emense urge to do it. For me, it seems like such a small thing when I really want it but I remember that it isn't (and never was) worth it. We are bought for a high price and are, therefore, better than anything sin can offer us. God bless. I'll pray for you!
 
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Hello everyone I am new to Christian Forums. I would like to introduce myself my name is Andrew. I am writing this because I feel like a bad Christian, because the Devil still tempts me with pornography on occasion. I'm trying to live a better and more pure life, but I still get the urge to view pornography and touch on occasion. I repent when I do it, but I feel like I am only going to get so many strikes. So what am I to do? I'm a 25 year old single dad and I get urges like every other male. I just feel really guilty about mine. Could someone offer up some advice?

Greetings brother. Thank you for taking the time to be honest here.

Like contango said, you are certainly not alone. This is an issue that every guy faces, andi I imagine that there is more secret shame felt by this sin that any other sin.

That being said, I don't want to undermine the value of getting rid of these two sins. Though they are common, they cause a great deal of unnecessary and avoidable strife in our Christian walks. I have a verse for you with a couple thoughts on it. I'll try to be straightforward, but know that this is coming from a brother who stumbles in many ways as well.

Romans 8:13 - "For if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live."

Just to be clear, this verse isn't saying that by doing these things you are earning your salvation, even though this is perscribed as a duty.

There is a promise of life for killing off sin. It's more than just not sinning, but taking an active role in killing off the power of that sin in your life.

It is something that we make a conscious, guided effort to do as well. We should be in prayer to be rid of sin, most definitely, though to kill sin will also mean our own selves taking actions to get rid of that sin.

But you also see that it's by the power of the Holy Spirit that you do it. If you want to be rid of sin, it must happen by the power of the Holy Spirit or it won't happen at all. But the Holy Spirit is able and willing to do this work for those who want to do it.

That all being said, how much do you want to be rid of these sins? If you don't desire it, you won't be rid of them; but if you do, that will go a long way in killing off the power of this sin. It won't ever be perfectly mortified, but it's like a serpent that, though it's still alive, has lost its power to strike effectively. If you take to this sin like one killing off a viper, wanting it to be dead, by the power of the Spirit he will see victory; but if you only go so far as what feels sufficient for the time being, it may come back worse than before, and it would have been better had you not started.

When you go to kill these sins, do it with the intention of finishing the job.

There's a book that you would be interested in reading. It's an old Puritanical work, uses dated language and is kind of deep, but I think that you will find this very helpful. "The Mortification of Sin" by John Owen. He writes another book called Indwelling Sin in Believers which I haven't read yet, but heard it's an excellent work. If you take the first one seriously, I believe you'll find a lot of help and insight to your problem--and not just for these two sins, but also other ones in your life.

I'm glad that you are open about your sin and are seeking help :) At the same time, don't take your battle superficially. I know that we are not perfect in this life, and virtually every living man deals and struggles with this issue, though don't let that discourage you from killing off these two. If it helps you too, it is entirely possible to go a very long time without masturbation or pornography, or at least in the most express forms. Just be careful that while you strive to get rid of these, you don't fall prey to other subtler, "lesser" forms of lust.

God bless you bro.
 
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Cut off the porn. If it's a magazine on a rack you pass by every day, find a different route to wherever you're going. If it's on the Internet, pull the Internet. If it is literally outside your power to pull the Internet, move someplace else where you don't get the Internet.
 
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You are not alone my friend... God loves you no matter what. He knows that all Men lust and fantasies about things, even if you aren't willing to admit it. A lot of Christians will say they never have the urge to touch or never fantasies about women/men but they do, it is all part of the original sin. I don't think cutting Internet off will help you at all. Because you can't cut off your mind to do such things like fantasies, or you can't stop your self from not having the urge to touch. Having a deep relationship with Jesus Christ of Nazerath will truly help you. He loves you no matter what.

I'm not pro on this type of stuff, and feel free other Christians to correct me, it will help me, and other Christians like Andrew out.

(though I truely believe it is impossible not to have urges and fantasies about women/men)
 
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Cutting the internet off, avoiding the newsagents with extensive "top shelf" selections etc won't guarantee an end to the lustful thoughts but they can help reduce the situations that trigger the thoughts.

Coming across things like that, especially if they are unexpected, can start a chain of thought that's unhelpful. So avoiding trigger situations, while not completely foolproof, is a good idea in that it can help.
 
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1COR 1:30 But of him are yein Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption

PHIL 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

PHIL 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and mindsthrough Christ Jesus.

JN 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you.

ROM 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

ROM 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

ROM 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin

ROM 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

GAL 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


GAL 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

ROM 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

Psal 20: 5 We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners: the LORD fulfil all thy petitions.

PS 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Read the above verses.
Note here, that you need to remain in Christ. You must acknowledge that you have died with him and believe in this truth. If you keep doing things on your own, you can't win. The battle is the lord's. He has vcitorized over all Satan's work. Christ is our victory. But to let his victory shine through you, you must put down yourself. It's like when someone tries to save a drowning person. If the drowning guy keeps struggling on his own, not matter how strong how hard how capable the one comes to save him is, he can't help! Same like you, if you depend on your own trying to solve the prolem with your sinful nature, Christ can't do anything. You must surrender to Christ to let him work. He is your righteousness, holiness. Being righteous and holy is his nature, as opposed to our sinful nature. When you surrender to Christ, and believe in his word, and confess to Christ that you can't win on your own, you need him to do it, to fight for you.

I don't know you, but many Christians thought that we are only saved through grace, to go on we are on our own. that's not the truth. The truth is the moment since you are saved through grace, you need to walk your whole life in God's grace. Grace is Christ working on our behalf; while obeying the law is we doing on our own. You must stand steadfst the position that you are dead to sin and the law. We are not working hard, most of the times that means miserably to obey God's command. And sadly but true, that doesn't work. We can't do even one thing right in God's eyes. It's Christ in us that delights our Father. And only if "you remain in Christ, He remains in you." That means if you still do things by yourself, His life is not working through you.

You know why you prayed but no peace. It must be that you are not in Christ, so His life is not manifesting through you. You are living the life of Christ, if you would surrender to his authority. He is your wisdom when you are facing a difficult problem. He's your holiness when you are tempted to adultery. He's our all in all. That's it. When God give us his son. He give us his whole life. And this life has it all. You don't need to pray for a part of it this day, and another part of it some other day. When you are tempted to lash out in anger, Christ is your gentleness. That's his nature. He is your ability.

Jesus is the Prince of peace. If you would acknowledge and believe you are dead, and it is Christ that lives in you, you have God's peace.

I believe the problem is that you are not letting the life of Christ to rein in you. His life is more that just conquering the devil, more than. What does it mean. It means if we let him live instead of ourselves, we are victors. We are joyfully victors that we praise him and thank him from inside out. The battle that Christ fight for us doesn't leave him weary. His cup of blessing through the life of Christ runs over. His victory makes us rejoice.


with this, you need not run from pornography, that is when even passively confronting pornography, Christ strengthens you with overwhelming victory, truly living in the world but not of the world. the life of Christ enables you to shut down such thoughts when it comes as you surrender.
 
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In case someone missed this: God knew millenia beforehand every single thing you were going to do. Plus, He loved you before it all, through it all, and after it all. He's provided for your inability, too (Rom 8:3). He's not expecting you to make yourself perfect.

But you should also know, He wants you to be gentle and careful with other people who are equally unable to handle the sin in their lives. I'm gonna quote something Jesus said. I think it might help to meditate first on being the one who's asking for forgiveness, and what it means about God's response to you:
"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him." Lk 17:3-4 (cf Mt 18:22)​
God's not telling you to do something He hasn't already done for you.

When others need that kind of forgiveness, do it. Go and do likewise with those who also sin. Represent Him to others.
 
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It's wonderful to see young people here getting down to business with G-d, and kicking sin out! A car battery only works when there's 2 connections, a positive and a negative. Resisting sin is our negative connection. Power and purity go together.

Here's the best thing I've heard in all of Christianity:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7474551/

Do yourself a favor and listen to both parts. And as far as fantasies?

"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled." 2 Cor 10:3-6
 
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Good luck with this. I believe you have the strength to do it <3

Since I'm new, I'm not entirely sure on the Christian viewpoint on masturbation. I know pornography is viewed as wrong but I haven't found a definite answer for self pleasure. Just curious.

Porn and masturbation is lust. Also gay and lesbian acts of lust are an abomination against God if that is also included in the porn.

As for the author of the thread, you must hate porn and hate lust to a point that it makes you sick if you see it. Soon as that stomach feeling starts, get angry and hate all evil like Jesus does and did. Others have given great advice on here to help you. Mix and match some of those ideas, in fact working out (lifting weights) helps or going out and jogging helps as well. Self control is all about will power. You simply find the strength within yourself to not give into temptation. God will help you if you Pray for strength and guidance. If you start to be tempted, just open up your Bible and start to Pray to Jesus. It works every time. Keep that up and you will find you are having less temptations every day.

What is really wild is eventually those temptations will seem to just bounce right off of you and never even affect you after a while. It is like an automatic temptation bug zapper that works 24 hours a day. when you reach that point, you find peace and joy with Jesus since temptation is like a thing of the past. Since all evil is now repulsive and annoying, that you hate all evil and as soon as it is seen or you are near it you either say something about it or turn it off and walk away or turn the channel to Discovery or some nature show.

Say, NO, I will not sin. I am a servant of Jesus. I will not do it. Get up and be angry at evil for trying to destroy you. Get angry and start to fight back at evil and Pray to Jesus for strength. Eventually, you don't even realize you are being tempted since they cannot even faze you.
God Bless.

Also, if you feel tempted, just come to this site and read posts, find answers, guidance, inspiration and counseling.
 
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do not get discouraged! God is ALWAYS forgiving. Theres an old saying: Garbage in, Garbage out. Make sure you feed yourself spiritually. Like reading the bible daily, praying daily, getting seriously involved in church. It might be helpful to have an accountability partner. Someone you can trust that can help keep you in check or someone you can call when you have that desire that can pray with you and talk you through it. Never give up hope. God convicts, never condemns. Remember that. If you feel like you are a horrible person for whatever you did or didn't do that is satan NOT God. Satan will use any insecurities that we have to turn us away from our Father. I'm not a guy but I am 25 and I know what ungodly desires are out there in the world and it is extremely difficult to say no but God never said being a christian was going to be easy. Stay strong! I'm praying for you.
 
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Hello everyone I am new to Christian Forums. I would like to introduce myself my name is Andrew. I am writing this because I feel like a bad Christian, because the Devil still tempts me with pornography on occasion. I'm trying to live a better and more pure life, but I still get the urge to view pornography and touch on occasion. I repent when I do it, but I feel like I am only going to get so many strikes. So what am I to do? I'm a 25 year old single dad and I get urges like every other male. I just feel really guilty about mine. Could someone offer up some advice?

It is normal. Because of societal condemnation, guilt/shame there is frequently magnified. That is a societal thing. If you consider going to the bathroom is also private, and remember that, it may make you feel more comfortable in moving on.

Do try and stay away from weird stuff and find someone, however. But don't beat yourself over it, that can make you feel defeated and hopeless. Hope is the very thing you need.

At 25, your body is racing with hormones. Masturbation is not a sin, it is not condemned even in the Law.

(Not that we are under Law nor that there is any basis of condemnation whatsoever in Christ, if we ourselves do not condemn.)

What is bad these days is the prevalence of porn, but you will eventually get to a place where such things do not effect you. They do because of physical needs, but also attacks by dark spirits.


God does always take circumstances/context/times into account.

For instance, King David and Solomon had many wives/concubines. Few ever condemn that because that was so normal for kings at the time, thousands of years ago.
 
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