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Lukewarm help on verse

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Sharky

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You know when Jesus talks about being luke warm. I can't remember the verse where it says that but he talks about if you're luke warm, He'll spit you out.

What exactly does that mean? I realise that it kinda means that if you hear the word, are a chrsitians but continually willfully sin without fear of God. What does it mean to you?
 

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Hm...this might be helpful:

The facts: Jesus knows and detests the lukewarmness of the Christians of Laodicea


a. This picture of lukewarmness would have particular relevance to the Christians of Laodicea because of their water supply

b. What do we mean when we say someone is lukewarm? In one sense, lukewarmness is a picture of uselessness - "Hot water heals, cold water refreshes, but lukewarm water is useless for either purpose" (Morris)

c. But more strongly, lukewarmness is a picture of indifference and compromise - it takes on the temperature of its surroundings

i. Does Jesus mean to say that these Christians are intrinsically cold, but warmed up by their religious trappings? Or, that they are essentially hot, but cooled down by their apathy and self-reliance? Both are possible, but since He is talking to His church, there is an emphasis on the later

ii. Has there been a greater curse upon the earth than empty religion? Is there any soul harder to reach than the one who has just enough of Jesus to think they have enough? Laodicea exemplifies empty religion; and tax collectors and harlots were more open to Jesus than scribes and Pharisees

iii. Satan will have us any way he can get us, but he prizes a lukewarm religionist far above a cold-hearted sinner

d. The name Laodicea means "rule of the people"; this church well represents a church run by majority rule instead of God. "Its name designates it as the Church of mob rule, the democratic Church, in which everything is swayed and decided by popular opinion, clamour and voting" (Seiss) e. This lukewarm Christianity is utterly distasteful to Jesus; He refuses to abide with it, and warns that He will spew you out of My mouth
 
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Uh oh...that can be a controversial Q...hehe...

I'll quote Greg Koukl, since, well, a lot of people can say it better than I. "We shouldn't have to probe into the past to find out if someone made a decision or not. It should be plastered all over their lives. A Christian life is a life characterized by concern for the things which concern God. Call it lordship if you want. I don't care. But I don't see how a true Christian can be anything else."

There is a verse in 1 Corinthians, I think, talking about the fruits of the Spirit.
 
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tinkerbell said:
Being a christian means loving God. That means fully and completely. Therefor if you a lukewarm, that means you don't fully love Him and you don't make Him the center of your life.
That was pretty good! :D

Though the question becomes, what are the fruits of a Christian who makes God the center of their life?

Fun fun!
 
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That is easy to give a basic answer for:

Galations 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
 
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sweetsoulsong said:
Though the question becomes, what are the fruits of a Christian who makes God the center of their life?

Fun fun!
The answer to that question is kind of another question: Do I love God enough to let go of Earthly attatchments? I know that seems kind of like a "well duh" statement, but it's true. Are you willing to give up a habbat that God convicts you is wrong? For example: Say you learn that eating cake is wrong (understand I'm not saying it is, for discussion sake I just tried to pick something most people like). Are you willing to give it up for Him? Are you willing to give up a TV show or a habbat or friends (you get my point). If not, you love those things more than God, and you're luke warm.
 
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I always took
Rev.3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
to mean that a Christian should be a Christian or not be a Christian but not try to live in both worlds somewhere in the uncommited middle.

This isn't the only verse that says something like this. There is the salt that lost it's savor verse. The hidden candle under a bushel verse. This theme is pretty much all over the place in the Bible. Don't live one way and then shock people off their barstools when you mention you're a Christian.

Someone here has a quote in their signature that I've heard a few times in church. It's kind of funny, and completely on the mark for this thread. "If you were tried in court for being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"
 
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