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It would mean after a period of time, your body would go into ketosis, where fats are burned for energy.

The body is capable of living on this type of diet, as long as you consume enough calories to sustain yourself. The brain needs sugar, but the body can make sugar from protein, when required to do so.

Now, everyone reacts a bit differently to these types of diets and if you are one is very physically active, you may find your energy levels are not adequate to sustain those activities or you may be ok, it all depends how well your body adapts.

Although I think it would be quite boring because carbs and sugars are found in most foods. basically it would be a meat based diet? So then that's where the Healthy fats would have to come in to satisfy you?
I would also think in the beginning of such a diet one would get a boost of false energy, that would quickly fade out.
 
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Although I think it would be quite boring because carbs and sugars are found in most foods. basically it would be a meat based diet? So then that's where the Healthy fats would have to come in to satisfy you?
I would also think in the beginning of such a diet one would get a boost of false energy, that would quickly fade out.

Many vegetables are very low in carbohydrates.

And, it is actually the opposite. At the onset, energy levels would be quite low, when carbohydrates are removed and when the body adapts and moves into ketosis, energy levels would rise again.
 
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Many vegetables are very low in carbohydrates.

And, it is actually the opposite. At the onset, energy levels would be quite low, when carbohydrates are removed and when the body adapts and moves into ketosis, energy levels would rise again.

Interesting about the energy levels.
Yet I still think if you were to keep your carb count to under 10 grams a day, your not eating many veggies. salads perhaps.
 
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Interesting about the energy levels.
Yet I still think if you were to keep your carb count to under 10 grams a day, your not eating many veggies. salads perhaps.

10 grams a day of carbs, is exceedingly low, off the charts low. You can go into ketosis by consuming several times that amount.

Unless you are eating corn or yams, most vegetables, are very low in carbohydrates.
 
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I've been eating lower carb for a number of years. It's kept me thin and healthier than I was previously with my diet. It feels good eating this way.

With the mention of ketosis, I've taken an interest recently in learning more about Dr. Otto Warburgs work with cancer. Warburg discovered that cancer cells are unique . Most obtain fuel for growth from sugars. He won a noble prize for the discovery. Some have felt that a diet in which little carbohydrate is consumed, and as a result healthy cells within the body rely upon ketones for fuel, would be helpful in fighting cancer. Robb Wolf's sight had a nice write up on this idea.

"It is cancer biology’s Most Fundamental question: What is the origin of cancer?"

Robb Wolf - The Origin of Cancer

excerpt from the article:

...“Once you frame cancer in the light of a metabolic disease the treatment options get exciting. The ketogenic diet is just the first piece of low-hanging fruit – the drugs that target cancer’s defective metabolism are just getting started – and when you combine the two — that’s when things get really interesting,” says Dr. Seyfried. The important point emphasized by scientists who study the combination of the ketogenic diet combined with drugs that target metabolism – is that the ketogenic diet differentiates in a way that no chemotherapeutic drug on the market is able to – the ketogenic diet makes healthy cells healthier and sick cells sicker – allowing a synergistic effect when adjunctive agents are utilized. It prepares the therapeutic landscape to be more receptive to additional treatments that target metabolism – When taken together as a comprehensive therapeutic strategy; the ketogenic diet could be thought of as primer to a painter, or fertilizer to a gardener. ...
 
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I watched "Fat Head" on Amazon Prime this morning~a rebuke to Spurlock's "SuperSize Me" and it ended up being a low carb sort of thing and it made sense...

....but wondering if it's another "trend" that 10 years from now will prove to be detrimental to health over all...but it does really make a lot of sense and presented very well, highly recommended.
 
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I watched "Fat Head" on Amazon Prime this morning~a rebuke to Spurlock's "SuperSize Me" and it ended up being a low carb sort of thing and it made sense...

....but wondering if it's another "trend" that 10 years from now will prove to be detrimental to health over all...but it does really make a lot of sense and presented very well, highly recommended.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the low carb diets. What may take some time to discern, are folks who are consuming a lot of animal fats on low carb diets and how that impacts their long term health risks.

Also, IMO, low carb diets are good for people with more sedentary lifestyles, because they don't have some of the physiological benefits from exercise, with one of them being more sensitive to insulin and more prone to store sugar as glycogen, vs fat.

The more active a person is, the less important their diet becomes in maintaining an ideal weight. The less active a person is, the more important their diet becomes.
 
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I've been eating low carb for years, though not as low as 30 but low enough to lose weight. It's one of the best choices I've made. I don't know why more people don't know about low carb and why they don't eat this way. Like someone said, in the past before processed food and junk food, everyone ate low carb! Eating meat, veggies and fruit and a small amount of bread is low carb and that's how people ate for thousands of years before the invention of processed and fast food. :thumbsup: It just seems strange now because people are so used to eating junk food, fast food, sweets and soda etc.
 
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I was a low carber for at least two years, and I must say that during that time my cognitive ability shot through the roof. Mental arithmetic, punctuation and grammar, typing speed, mood, and cognition all improved significantly. I also noticed that any depression I had was completely lifted.

Once you break through the initial ketosis wall, it does work extremely well. You just have to make absolutely SURE that you're eating enough saturated fat, especially if your carb intake is below 50g.

My diet was almost two thirds saturated fat in the end, and I felt as if I was on rocket fuel. Four hours of sleep a night was no problem for me, and I could practically Jackie Chan out of bed in the morning.

30-50g of carbs does sound about right. If you're above 100g then you won't necessarily benefit from either end of the spectrum i.e. carb burner, or fat burner. You'll just teeter somewhere in the middle.

Be patient. It can take time to become fat adapted, but once you do, you'll be glad for it.


Edit: an example of the sort of foods that were in my diet (because you'll no doubt ask what a diet comprised of two thirds saturated fat looks like) tended to be things like: cream - (added cream to omelettes, and such,) coconut butter - for medium chain triglycerides, BACON!, 90% cocoa chocolate, salted butter - for cooking and marinading, hard cheeses, fatty cuts of meat, and other animal fats, with limited PUFA's and n6.
 
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When you do low-carb diets, can you still eat lower-carb versions, of carb foods, and lose weight? I see recipes, on Pinterest, for low carb baked goods. Can you eat things like that, when trying to lose weight, not just maintain weight loss?
 
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When you do low-carb diets, can you still eat lower-carb versions, of carb foods, and lose weight? I see recipes, on Pinterest, for low carb baked goods. Can you eat things like that, when trying to lose weight, not just maintain weight loss?


Low carb isn't necessary for weight loss - weight loss is governed hormonally, and through energy expenditure. Low carb tends to be used for therapeutic purposes, such as diabetes, depression, etc.

Weight loss is incredibly superficial. When I approach a diet, I look at how it can benefit me OVERALL, in terms of health, mental health, and longevity. Weight management is usually a side benefit, rather than a contributing factor for me.
 
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When you do low-carb diets, can you still eat lower-carb versions, of carb foods, and lose weight? I see recipes, on Pinterest, for low carb baked goods. Can you eat things like that, when trying to lose weight, not just maintain weight loss?

I'm not sure of the recipes on Pinterest. I've found one of the better known low carb weight loss physicians is from Sweden, Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt. He's written concerns in the past over some "low carb" baked goods not really being low in carbs. His sight is ~

Diet Doctor - Real food for your health
 
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And to add to my previous post, here's an excellent article that explains Saturated fats v PUFA's and n6, brilliantly:-

PUFA: What is it and Why Should it Be Avoided? | Butter Believer

I wouldn't be so quick to promote diets higher in saturated fats.

Some people can get away with consuming more saturated fat and some can not. If one has higher LDL levels of cholesterol and is consuming saturated fat, they could very well be increasing heart disease risk.

Depending on one's genetics, some people manufacture more cholesterol than others, from the consumption of saturated fats. If a person has a bad cholesterol profile (with high levels of LDL cholesterol, the kind which sticks to arterial walls), they very well could be increasing risk, with saturated fats.
 
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I've seen a number of study articles recently about saturated fats not being the heart disease villains as once believed. For example:

"Yet another major review finds no reason at all to limit saturated fat in the diet"

Yet another major review finds no reason at all to limit saturated fat in the diet | Dr Briffa's Blog - A Good Look at Good Health

We need more studies and data to really understand this better.

Scientists Fix Errors in Controversial Paper About Saturated Fats | Science/AAAS | News
 
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When you do low-carb diets, can you still eat lower-carb versions, of carb foods, and lose weight? I see recipes, on Pinterest, for low carb baked goods. Can you eat things like that, when trying to lose weight, not just maintain weight loss?

Yes, you can lose weight by eating low carb versions of every dish or food.:thumbsup:
 
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I've seen a number of study articles recently about saturated fats not being the heart disease villains as once believed. For example:

"Yet another major review finds no reason at all to limit saturated fat in the diet"

Yet another major review finds no reason at all to limit saturated fat in the diet | Dr Briffa's Blog - A Good Look at Good Health



I don't eat a lot of fat but I do eat low carb. I've read a lot of books though about how it was sugar that was causing the problems that people have though, like the book called The Sugar Fix. I bought that book and it was very interesting and talked about the affect sugar has on the body and how it's sugar and sweets that causes heart disease and messes up the liver etc. You should read that book. :thumbsup:
 
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I don't eat a lot of fat but I do eat low carb. I've read a lot of books though about how it was sugar that was causing the problems that people have though, like the book called The Sugar Fix. I bought that book and it was very interesting and talked about the affect sugar has on the body and how it's sugar and sweets that causes heart disease and messes up the liver etc. You should read that book. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the book link. I haven't read that book about fructose, but am familiar with the debate within the low carb community. It's good to limit sugars. There was even that latest article just last week with mention on that.

Processed Fructose Is the Number One Driver of Obesity & Diabetes

Some believe, for many, the greatest impact with weight loss and improved health comes from avoiding grains, wheat in particular. For example cardiologist Dr. Davis wrote a popular book about what happened after he asked his patients to simply avoid wheat. He writes about Wheat Belly and what followers experience after avoiding wheat, and sometimes/often times doing other activities, at his blog:

Blog - Dr. William Davis
 
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Thanks for the book link. I haven't read that book about fructose, but am familiar with the debate within the low carb community. It's good to limit sugars. There was even that latest article just last week with mention on that.

Processed Fructose Is the Number One Driver of Obesity & Diabetes

Some believe, for many, the greatest impact with weight loss and improved health comes from avoiding grains, wheat in particular. For example cardiologist Dr. Davis wrote a popular book about what happened after he asked his patients to simply avoid wheat. He writes about Wheat Belly and what followers experience after avoiding wheat, and sometimes/often times doing other activities, at his blog:

Blog - Dr. William Davis

By far, the biggest driver in obesity and adult onset diabetes is; sedentary lifestyles; inactivity.

The body was designed to be active and this has been the single most destructive change in lifestyle in the United States, over the last few decades, with people sitting in front of computers all day and other screens.

The less you exercise, the more important your diet becomes, the more you exercise, the less important your diet becomes.
 
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