Love God...

[Hammster]

So what if a man wants to live in adultery, is he sill loving God living in adultery? no

Why would you commit adultery? You love God, don’t you?

 

[Tree of Life]

It appears you are trying to get a person to love God BEFORE that person keeps His commandments.

One does not love God until he keeps His commands.

Keeping God's commandments is proof of one's love for God as works are proof of one's faith.

One can SAY they love God but if that person is not obeying God, the lack of obedience is proof he does not love God as he claims.

More interesting thoughts!

I'm interested in how you would answer this question - If someone truly loved God, would they want to obey his commandments?

 

[Hammster]

It does if you are quoting a part of a sentence from an author that can be misunderstood/misinterpreted in a way of accusing him of teaching something he did not originally intend. Poorest and tasteless thread I've seen for a loong time.

I'm out.

The sentence is the topic. It’s not relevant who said it. I just wanted to give credit.

So if it helps, pretend I said it.

 

[TheSeabass]

Where did I say that he doesn't?



We love BECAUSE he first loved us - 1 John 4:19.
That is why, and how, we are able to love.
We cannot obey his command to love unless we have first received his love - from him.

That does not explain how man loves God back. The way man loves God back is by keeping His commandments. Even though God loves all men john 3:16 all men do not love God back for most men do not obey Him.

 

[TheSeabass]

More interesting thoughts!

I'm interested in how you would answer this question - If someone truly loved God, would they want to obey his commandments?

One does not love God UNTIL one FIRST keeps His commands.

 

[Tree of Life]

One does not love God UNTIL one FIRST keeps His commands.

Could you just answer the question? It's a "yes" or "no" question.

 

[TheSeabass]

You're still not contradicting Augustine.

How then is one loving God by doing what he wants to in living in adultery?

 

[Tree of Life]

How then is one loving God by doing what he wants to in living in adultery?

He is not loving God.

 

[Swan7]

Love God and do what you want. Or variations thereof. It’s a quote attributed to Augustine. (We don’t need links to the original. I only want to discuss the phrase.)

True? False?

Both, but under different contexts. Hear me out:

True, because of the new nature one puts on being born as a new creation - as God intended from the beginning without sin.
False, due to the notion of only believing there is a God, not knowing who He is and isn't loving Him, which is by doing what He has said in His Word.

It depends on one's mindset when reading these kinds of ambiguous questions. As we all know, not everyone reads the same.

May God bless you.

 

[Hammster]

It appears you are trying to get a person to love God BEFORE that person keeps His commandments.

One does not love God until he keeps His commands.

Keeping God's commandments is proof of one's love for God as works are proof of one's faith.

One can SAY they love God but if that person is not obeying God, the lack of obedience is proof he does not love God as he claims.

I think you have that backwards.

 

[TheSeabass]

Could you just answer the question? It's a "yes" or "no" question.

I have answered the question, you do not seem to comprehend my answer.

You cannot love God BEFORE you keep His commands. You can claim you love God but not UNTIL you keep His commands are you loving God.

 

[Tree of Life]

I have answered the question, you do not seem to comprehend my answer.

You cannot love God BEFORE you keep His commands. You can claim you love God but not UNTIL you keep His commands are you loving God.

Do you love God right now?

 

[Hammster]

Both, but under different contexts. Hear me out:

True, because of the new nature one puts on being born as a new creation - as God intended from the beginning without sin.
False, due to the notion of only believing there is a God, not knowing who He is and isn't loving Him by not doing what He has said in His Word.

It depends on one's mindset when reading these kinds of ambiguous questions. As we all know, not everyone reads the same.

May God bless you.

The assumption, being in the CO area, is that I’m talking to Christians.

 

[TheSeabass]

I think you have that backwards.

It is the Calvinists that have it all backwards in attempting to get man saved first THEN man obeys and man loving God THEN man obeys.

The obedience comes first.

 

[Swan7]

The assumption, being in the CO area, is that I’m talking to Christians.

Very true.

 

[Hammster]

I have answered the question, you do not seem to comprehend my answer.

You cannot love God BEFORE you keep His commands. You can claim you love God but not UNTIL you keep His commands are you loving God.

Why would someone who doesn’t love God keep His commandments?

 

[TheSeabass]

Do you love God right now?

Yes.

 

[TheSeabass]

Why would someone who doesn’t love God keep His commandments?

They wouldn't.

How can someone love God not having kept His commands?

 

[Hammster]

It is the Calvinists that have it all backwards in attempting to get man saved first THEN man obeys and man loving God THEN man obeys.

The obedience comes first.

I guess Jesus was a Calvinist.

“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
— John 14:15

 

[Hammster]

They wouldn't.

How can someone love God not having keep His commands?

You said they don’t love until they keep His commandments. So that means obedience precedes love. But why would someone who doesn’t love Him obey Him?