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Material things can be replaced but lives cannot. Furthermore people have set things on fire over sports so is this really all that outrageous?
And I'd like to know exactly what happened. It certainly wasn't correct police procedure, and so the policemen losing their jobs was obviously justified.
But was it more than that? Was George Floyd on drugs, as has been claimed? If so, which drugs? Was this an unfortunate outcome after a lengthy struggle to restrain him, or was it a crime? What's the "other evidence" that the Hennepin County Attorney was talking about? What was the sequence of events that took place before the video that everybody has seen? Did George Floyd actually resist arrest at all?
You have to recognize the amount of PAIN that has built up in their community to willingly burn their own city down. Tell me how many more officers need to be acquitted and how many more lives need to be lost before their cries are heard and addressed? If a building was not on fire right now how many people would not know his name?Yes. It is very outrageous. If every sentiment can only be expressed with torching something then why care about life lost? Because a burning building or vehicle can't kill people?
You have to recognize the amount of PAIN that has built up in their community to willingly burn their own city down. Tell me how many more officers need to be acquitted and how many more lives need to be lost before their cries are heard and addressed? If a building was not on fire right now how many people would not know his name?
You have to recognize the amount of PAIN that has built up in their community to willingly burn their own city down. Tell me how many more officers need to be acquitted and how many more lives need to be lost before their cries are heard and addressed? If a building was not on fire right now how many people would not know his name?
Please STOP trying to justify George Floyd's MURDER.
It SHOULD NOT MATTER whether or not he was on drugs, what kind of drugs, how long it took to restrain him
Was that 9 MINUTE video of George pleading for his life while a grown man kneeled on his neck not enough evidence to convince you this was a HOMICIDE.
in BROAD DAYLIGHT?
You should be OUTRAGED not questioning whether or not George Floyd deserved to die.
What lives are in danger? Certainly not Derek Chauvin's who currently has an entire platoon outside his home. I'm so sorry that the CEO of Target and T-Mobile have to deal with this minor inconvenience while Floyd's family has to deal with the inconvenience of LOSING THEIR LOVED ONE.So you justify putting more lives in danger so you can highlight an issue? You mean the owner of such destruction have no rights and have to sit idly by as people burn his property down?
If that's the justification why pretend you want justice? Just bring out a gun and start shooting at the police station until all the polices are dead.
Why call for justice?
Noooo not corporate assets! Whatever will they do!
Tell me what is your idea of ensuring George Floyd gets justice?
Murder. Over an alleged forged check. That is what happened.Alleged murder. Like I said, I want to know what actually happened.
Did it look like he was violent to you?Of course it matters. Certain drugs make people particularly violent, and that means arresting law enforcement officers are justified in using more force.
For all I'm concerned murdering unarmed black men is also standard police procedure.Restraint using a knee on the neck is a standard police procedure. Many police departments ban it because it's very dangerous, but Minneapolis does not (maybe they should): The move used to restrain George Floyd isn't encouraged by most police. Here's why - CNN
What reason is valid enough to have him kneel on a man's neck for 9 minutes?So it comes down to: did the police have a valid reason to apply this form of restraint to George Floyd, or was it unjustified violence against him?
They had neither a valid reason or competence.If they did have a valid reason, was it done competently? I'm not qualified to judge that, and the video doesn't offer a very clear view anyway, but the outcome certainly suggests that it wasn't.
When a police officer has the power to lynch a black man with dozens watching and recording and some even screaming at him to stop and he walks away as a free man that is an issue, sir.I'm not sure what the daylight has to do with it.
When the result of incompetent policing is a dead person then it's called homicide.Of course George Floyd didn't deserve to die. But was it murder, or merely incompetent policing? If it was murder, then obviously charges need to be brought. If it was incompetent policing, then (as well as firing the officers involved) the Minneapolis police department needs to improve their training and review the use of this particular form of restraint.
What lives are in danger? Certainly not Derek Chauvin's who currently has an entire platoon outside his home. I'm so sorry that the CEO of Target and T-Mobile have to deal with this minor inconvenience while Floyd's family has to deal with the inconvenience of LOSING THEIR LOVED ONE.
Tell me what is your idea of ensuring George Floyd gets justice? Because peaceful protesting has gotten about every officer acquitted so far.
Murder.
Did it look like he was violent to you?
When the result of incompetent policing is a dead person then it's called homicide.
In case you forgot sir a life WAS lost. You are more concerned about protesters committing "attempted murder" while a cop sits comfortably in his home after ACTUALLY murdering a man.Just because there is no live lost now in a torching doesn't justify anything. If an attempted murder failed should the courts say it's not murder?
These are all minor losses compared to a life.You only look at the CEO and rich individuals and say it's a minor loss. What about the employees that depend on Target to get by? Or the entire chain supply that Target sustain. What about the regular people who's livelihood got disrupted at a time where lay off are rampant?
A broken window and graffiti is something that can happen ANY TIME. I'm sure they understand, given the circumstances. I would.Are you going to feed and shelter them? If yes then go ahead start torching more places of business. Then take up the responsibility to care for them.
If it was your family's place of business and suddenly you find yourself out of income to sustain your family will you sing the same tune?
Says the man pointing fingers at the WRONG CROWD.You have a narrow understanding of what justice and fairness are.
No. I literally watched the man die.I see that you don't need things like evidence, courts, or juries to reach a decision.
https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/video-does-not-appear-to-show-george-floyd-resisting-arrest/Not after he was restrained, no. But was he violent before he was restrained? That's what I'd like to know.
In Minnesota, the policemen would be guilty of murder in the first degree if they "caused the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person or of another."
They would be guilty of murder in the second degree if they "caused the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation."
They would be guilty of murder in the third degree if they "without intent to effect the death of any person, caused the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life."
I don't see how a policeman, in the course of his duties, applying a restraint technique valid in the state of Minnesota, could successfully be prosecuted under any of those charges.
On the other hand, police departments across the US have made clear that any policeman doing what was shown in the video would not retain his job -- because, at the very least, (1) a very dangerous form of restraint was used, and (2) the police involved did not adequately monitor Floyd's breathing.
You do not believe the officer perpetrated any "eminently dangerous acts" by applying a highly controversial restraint technique?
You do not believe the officer acted "without regard for human life" when George Floyd begged for his life?
If it was your family's place of business and suddenly you find yourself out of income to sustain your family will you sing the same tune?
Of course, it's virtually certain that all kinds of new evidence is going to make it's way into the public arena. I will make up my mind when I've seen more evidence.
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. —Proverbs 18:17
I remember the reactions on CF to the Covington and Smollett cases. Many were swift to judge based on limited information. In both instances their certainty was proven wrong when additional evidence came to light.
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