Looking for all relevant scripture regarding tithing/giving back to God

[ChrisHolland619]

Can anyone help me out? I've tried Google but I just keep getting man-written results, not from the Bible. =/

 

[MrJG]

The first several that come to mind are:
1 Corinthians 16:2. This is a common verse used to show the practice of giving out of the NT. Also, 2 Corinthians 8:1-5 is a good passage on Mission's giving.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Malachi 3
10 "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.
11 "Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground ; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts.

Luke 6
38 "Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure -pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return."
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[Ironside]

Malachi 3
10 "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.
11 "Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground ; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts.

Luke 6
38 "Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure -pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return."
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Concerning Malachi 3. Please consider the context. It is written to the Israelites. We, as NT believers, should not have one foot in the OT and one foot in the NT. With that said, I am all for giving.

 

[lismore]

Deuteronomy 12:
11 Then to the place the LORD your God will choose as a dwelling for his Name—there you are to bring everything I command you: your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, and all the choice possessions you have vowed to the LORD.

Deuteronomy 26:
12 When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.

Deuteronomy 14:
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

 

[GaryArnold]

THE FIRST TITHE
Leviticus 27:30-33 defines this tithe as a tenth of crops and animals in herds and flocks.
Numbers 18 gives the ordinances, or instructions, for this tithe, and commands this tithe be taken to the Levites.
Purpose of this tithe: to support the Levitical Priesthood.

SECOND TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:22-27: aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take for the yearly feast.
Purpose of this tithe: “that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always”

THIRD TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:28-29: aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat.
Purpose of this tithe: to feed the poor.

According to Hebrews 7:5,12,18 tithing was disannulled at the cross.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Concerning Malachi 3. Please consider the context. It is written to the Israelites. We, as NT believers, should not have one foot in the OT and one foot in the NT. With that said, I am all for giving.

So nothing written to the Israelites if of value to us? Really? You're going to reject the OT out of hand? I definitely beg to differ! We most certainly are to have "one foot in the OT and one in the NT" for contextual accuracy. It's not two books, it's one, continued after a 400 years silence.

It would be a dangerous thing to deny Malachi 3:10, 11 applies to the modern Christian, simply as a justification for being disobedient to God.

 

[GaryArnold]

It would be a dangerous thing to deny Malachi 3:10, 11 applies to the modern Christian, simply as a justification for being disobedient to God.

Malachi 3:7 (KJV) “Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ORDINANCES, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?”

ORDINANCES NAILED TO THE CROSS:
Colossians 2:14 (KJV) “Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;”

Malachi 3 does not apply to Christians.

The curses don't apply: Galatians 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us…”

The blessings don't apply: Ephesians 1:3 (KJV) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:”

Furthermore, the blessing referred to in Malachi 3 was RAIN for the crops.

When God gave the Israelites the promised land, He RESERVED, for Himself, a tenth of the crops and every tenth animal. They NEVER did belong to the Israelites. In other words, the tithe was from God's increase of FOOD, not from man's income. It was a way to distribute FOOD to the Levites and priests who did NOT inherit any land.

No one, not even the farmers, tithed on their income.

The farmers made their income by SELLING and/or barter-exchanging their crops and animals but did NOT tithe on that income.

Today, ALL born-again believers are priests. ALL of us are called to be deciples of the Lord. No one of us is higher than another. Our bodies are the Temple where the Spirit dwells. According to the scriptures, priests do not tithe.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Malachi 3:7 (KJV) “Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ORDINANCES, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?”

Even though the Law no longer imprisons us, nonetheless, Jesus said not one jot or tittle will pass away until "all has been fulfilled." The Law continues as a mirror to us, allowing us to measure ourselves against it for obedience. And as for this ...

ORDINANCES NAILED TO THE CROSS:
Colossians 2:14 (KJV) “Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;”

... bad translation, my friend. Try this:

Colossians 2
13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. [Emphasis added]
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Those are not the "ordinances" of the Law. They are the written record of our personal sins.

Malachi 3 does not apply to Christians.

The curses don't apply: Galatians 3:13 “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us…”

The blessings don't apply: Ephesians 1:3 (KJV) “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:”

Furthermore, the blessing referred to in Malachi 3 was RAIN for the crops.

When God gave the Israelites the promised land, He RESERVED, for Himself, a tenth of the crops and every tenth animal. They NEVER did belong to the Israelites. In other words, the tithe was from God's increase of FOOD, not from man's income. It was a way to distribute FOOD to the Levites and priests who did NOT inherit any land.

No one, not even the farmers, tithed on their income.

The farmers made their income by SELLING and/or barter-exchanging their crops and animals but did NOT tithe on that income.

Today, ALL born-again believers are priests. ALL of us are called to be deciples of the Lord. No one of us is higher than another. Our bodies are the Temple where the Spirit dwells. According to the scriptures, priests do not tithe.

This is just so much misinterpreted drivel! Nothing you say here has any biblical basis of support. These are ideas men have come up with to avoid the responsibility of the tithe. 'Nuf said. We're done here.

 

[GaryArnold]

THE FIRST TITHE
Leviticus 27:30-33 defines this tithe as a tenth of crops and animals in herds and flocks.
Numbers 18 gives the ordinances, or instructions, for this tithe, and commands this tithe be taken to the Levites.
Purpose of this tithe: to support the Levitical Priesthood.

SECOND TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:22-27: aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take for the yearly feast.
Purpose of this tithe: “that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always”

THIRD TITHE
Deuteronomy 14:28-29: aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to eat.
Purpose of this tithe: to feed the poor.

Now, tell me. Which of the above three tithes commanded by God does anyone follow today?

 

[JohnnyIMdoc]

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

I doubt there is such a thing as a child of God who doesn't feel the desire to help the needy (widows, orphans, etc). But I can totally agree with anyone who refuses to give to churches that waste God's money on lavish buildings, TV time, etc.

The church needs more humility and to never imitate the glam of the world.

So give all you can to feed the starving, support missionaries in foreign countries (USA has too much church'ish stuff already), and support widows and orphans in their distress. In places like the USA we can give more than 10 percent so forget the tithe and give as you purpose in your heart.

Just my two-cents.

God bless.

 

[Hupomone10]

Colossians 2
13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. [Emphasis added]
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Those are not the "ordinances" of the Law. They are the written record of our personal sins.

You don't offer any backup on this, other than your own opinion, but it's a bad interpretation IMHO. I will offer a respected author's comments:
"Dogmasin (decrees) refers to the Mosaic law (cf. Eph. 2:15 "by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances").
- John MacArthur, Colossians & Philemon commentary
There's nothing to suggest what you said.

This is just so much misinterpreted drivel! Nothing you say here has any biblical basis of support.

You owe the brother an apology here. Nothing gives you the right to call his post "drivel." Also, he did use Scriptures, and simply has a different take than you. I think you should use that mirror idea you referred to at the start of your post and look into it yourself, brother.


Blessings, in spite of differences and bad manners,
H.

 

[Hupomone10]

Having said that, God loves a cheerful giver, so we tithe.

I've found that God can make my money go farther with 9/10ths than I can with 10/10ths.

Blessings,
H.

 

[GaryArnold]

Having said that, God loves a cheerful giver, so we tithe.

But tithing was a PAYMENT. The Biblical tithe wasn't giving, it was like a tax. Who pays their taxes cheerfully?

Here are some similarities between a tax and the tithe:

Tithe - paid by those who inherited the promised land.
Inheritance or Estate tax - paid from the estate or inheritance.

Tithe - ONLY on property owners.
Property tax - ONLY on property owners.

Tithe - used to run the theocracy.
Income tax - used to run the government.

Tithe - doesn't apply to the poor.
Luxury tax - doesn't apply to the poor.

Tithing can also be compared to sharecropping.

Tithing was always taxation so that the programs of the government could run: the priestly program, the national religious program, and the welfare program.
Taken from God’s Plan for Giving, John MacArthur, Moody Press, 1985, page 76.

God placed all of these verses in our Bibles to remind us that Levites were public officials of the state and tithes were included as state-taxation to support them.
Taken from Should the Church Teach Tithing, Russell E. Kelly, Ph.D., page 70.

Even the Jewish Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Judaica, agrees that tithes were political taxes.
Taken from Should the Church Teach Tithing, Russell E. Kelly, Ph.D., page 71.

See also William Hendriksen and Simon J. Kistemaker, New Testament Commentary: Exposition of Thessalonians, the Pastorals, and Hebrews (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1995), 187, for support of the relationship between taxes and tithing.

God does like a cheerful giver. The New Testament teaches generous, sacrificial giving, from the heart, according to our means. For some, $1 might be a sacrifice, while for others, even giving 50% of their income might not induce a sacrifice. In the Old Testament, ONLY the farmers tithed, and it was equal percentage (a tenth). The New Testament teaches the principle of equal sacrifice instead of equal percentage. Equal sacrifice is much harder to achieve, if not impossible, than giving ten percent.

 

[Hupomone10]

But tithing was a PAYMENT. The Biblical tithe wasn't giving, it was like a tax. Who pays their taxes cheerfully?

I disagree. I think it differs from person to person. Some people do their prayers and their "quiet time" like it's a requirement, drudgery, and like they have to, as a ritual. Others do so because they know they give them spiritual strength and because they love the Lord.

God does like a cheerful giver. The New Testament teaches generous, sacrificial giving, from the heart, according to our means. For some, $1 might be a sacrifice, while for others, even giving 50% of their income might not induce a sacrifice. In the Old Testament, ONLY the farmers tithed, and it was equal percentage (a tenth). The New Testament teaches the principle of equal sacrifice instead of equal percentage. Equal sacrifice is much harder to achieve, if not impossible, than giving ten percent.

I'm not trying to pry, but if you don't mind me asking, how much generally do you give to the Lord's work and charity? Percentage wise. We can talk the philosophy of it all day long, but just like with prayer, "when all is said and done, more is said than done." My wife and I give around 11% pretax give or take. Not a law, just a good guideline, and we feel led to do around that level. God has always blessed us, but that's not why we do.

H.

 

[george baily]

Personally, I see only one place where Jesus receives any money anyone gives Mathew 25:45...........and that true religion is helping the widow and the fatherless, these monies given in these areas will fill your bank account in heaven.

 

[GaryArnold]

I disagree.

I'm not trying to pry, but if you don't mind me asking, how much generally do you give to the Lord's work and charity? Percentage wise.

Jesus called tithing a payment in Matthew 23:23 KJV.

Not that it matters, but I have been consistently giving around 30% of my income each month for the past several years. In order to be able to give that much, I have to use a portion of my retirement savings nearly each month. I have been retired for nearly 18 years, and my retirement savings has gone down substantially because of my generosity.

 

[GaryArnold]

Personally, I see only one place where Jesus receives any money anyone gives Mathew 25:45...........and that true religion is helping the widow and the fatherless, these monies given in these areas will fill your bank account in heaven.

I agree 100%. Most of the giving to organized corporations doing business as a "church" goes to buildings, salaries, utilities, etc. etc. VERY LITTLE of it goes to The Lord. Those buildings, salaries, utilities, etc. are for man's benefit. Man wants to go to church services inside, out of the heat or cold or rain. Man wants the heating and air conditioning. It's all about what man wants. Has nothing to do with giving the money to God. It is essentially man paying for services he is receiving.